During the Viet Nam war many horrible images were shown to the people and the government had to respect it. It's a shame that such images were not available at the beginning of the Holocaust. Maybe millions would have been saved.

If these murdered babies are NOT humans as the opposition claims than the pictures should be no more offensive than watching crabs and squid being cleaned. If you see the humanity in the person and the inhumanity in what happened, than you will feel differently.

May God use the martyred children of abortion to change the hearts of those who support their death.

"support their death"?

trust me i have the picture he shoved in my face carved in the back of my head its horrible i hope he feels satisfied

to perryhallparent, john doe, and whoever else cares to hear/see the truth, as a former counselor in a pro-life crisis pregnancy center dealing with a population who make appointments not only for free pregnancy tests, free resources, free maternity/ baby clothes, formula, etc., but also help with post abortion stress/regrets, i can assure you that we are not losers . . .the aborted innocents (babies) are the losers, and the nightmarish facts are true; ask anyone who's gone through the procedure; you can ask them years from now because the pain and regret follow you . . . and to think that some endure multiple abortions, which can lead to infertility, suicidal ideation . . .just a thought . . .

You know what patricia smith? I know the truth. I am pro-life (for myself, I don't have the right to expect others to be; that's their business if they believe a certain way), have several children and experienced the loss of two children by miscarriage. However, you actually spoke in your message here and expressed your feelings. More people would actually respect you for this type of rhetoric and be open to discussion than exposing toddlers and children to pictures of bloody fetuses. I experienced quite a bit of pain, regret, grief and depression after the loss of my babies through miscarriage, so, just a thought. Try actually interacting with people instead of offending them for a change. People who hold up those signs are in the same, exact category as the Westboro Church protestors.

I shouldn't have called them a name like 'losers'. Name calling is wrong. I will now call them "nightmare producers to young children", "selfish individuals who could have helped out at a homeless shelter that morning between 7 & 8 AM", "able-bodied citizens causing extended grief through pictures to those who have lost a child not by choice."

perryhallparent, john doe, etc - i commented I DO NOT AGREE WITH, NOR DO I CONDONE westboro church's methods/ tactics . . . that's why i (thought) i carefully worded my comment . . . and i'm aware of several miscarriages and 1 stillbirth in my immediate family . . . and yes, i feel much pain for each . . .(i'm a grandmom)

Well, if you don't condone their tactics, let's compare. Abortion protest outside Perry Hall High School: holding signs up showing shocking photos and statements...check; using a high profile establishment and high traffic area to garner interest in your (sickening) giant photos of bloodied fetuses (which we do not know as a fact are pictures of aborted fetuses)...check; justifying said actions and even going so far as to say that you don't condone the Westboro Church's tactics, although you do the same...check. Give me a break. No one agrees with you. If you feel the pain and you are a grandmom...shame on you. Try educating people with love and kindness, not blood and gore. I'm glad you aren't around my children.

Patricia Smith you claim to feel much pain for each of the severl miscarriages and 1 stillbirth in your family yet you are willing to carry these signs and defend these people. I had 3 miscarriages, the last one my daughter was the hardest on me and when I saw one of those signs all I could think about is was that what my daughter looked like? Was that what the other miscarriages looked like. She would have been 20 this June and the days get a lot easier but those pictures to "educate" people are a knife in my heart and I am sure I am not the only one that feels that way. If you feel much pain for the babies & their parents how can you do this? My husband keeps me away from areas these people are because he wants to save me the pain, what about people that can't avoid the areas these people are, they shouldn't feel the pain either.
I'm sorry your family has suffered so much, the babies are all in heaven with relatives that watch over us. When my father died one of the only things that gave me piece of mind is he was in heaven spending time with his grandaughter.

i'm not understanding why i'm feeling attacked . . . as i've commented more than once, I DON'T AGREE, NOR HAVE I EVER . . . . I'VE NEVER, nor would i EVER demonstrate ANYWHERE like the westboro church has done . . . there's some kind of misunderstanding here . . seems to me my comments are falling on deaf ears . . . oh, well . . .

...and there lies the problem...

I'd have taken it and shoved it someplace else on him.

Actually Kate there are 13 and 14 year old children having abortions with no idea what is happening other than those who tell them they need one. At least now they will start to have some idea.

Please site your source, dear Arlow.

P.S. The majority is the 50 million aborted babies.

Source: According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), since 1973, roughly 50 million legal induced abortions have been performed in the United States.[37] World wide, there have been over 1,260,000,000 abortions performed.

50 million babies. Guess how many of those would grow up into having miserable lives, with parents who weren't married/didn't love each other, didn't have jobs or the willingness to properly take care of them.

We'd have that many more people being wards of the government.

The real problem is the teen and young adult sex. Another problem is having a system that essentially pays the poor to breed. I understand why it happens, either option is messed up (government supporting them, or not doing so and letting them die)

Education is key, with abstinence being ideal but also accepting that birth control options need to be available for teens and young adults to compromise on their desires yet still be responsible.

One way or the other, religious zealots can't just bury their head in the sand and ignore reality. We have millions of children of reproducing age now who are quite frankly poorly parented. It is what it is. Bitching isn't going to fix anything.

Real solutions are required, not sermons from hypocrites in their day to day life.

Well said Tim - too much rhetoric on both sides with no real solutions.

thank you, Gods girl . . .

Gods girl you are so right. People this year are putting a lot of confidence in the Mayan death calender and they do study human sacrifice in the schools. However, because the Government commands it, somehow that is OK. The schools are full of depressing images and literature but those are Government approved and supported by the Secular Socialist teachers' unions. The public schools teach that if the Government says something it is true and whatever people of God say are myths. Our kids are given at least 13 years of such indoctrination. Our job is to break the chain of this mis-education.

"Rescue those who are unjustly sentenced to death; don't stand back and let them die." Proverbs 24:11

Hi Mike --- I agree with you, "you have a right to your beliefs, and my kids have a right to theirs...nowhere in that is your right to force said beliefs on my kids."
How do you feel about celebrating LGBT Day in Baltimore County schools?

I dont have a problem with it..and if you do you can hide from it if you choose...but I can assure you that porn wont be used to get the point of treating ALL people with respect across

So we should have a new board of Censorship at the Permits Department?

I don't think so.

Religious folks tend to lack critical thinking, considering religion and faith require the absence of such attributes.

totally agree

WOW, you take a lot of liberties with other people's kids...the decision of whether they are old enough to see these images is not yours to make. Besides, it wasnt just the high school kids that saw those images, it was the elementary and midle school kids..You are welcome to your views, and to express them, but NOT to decide ANYTHING for my kids...

"definitely a teaching tool?" - so, when they discuss the digestive system, they should put a big pile of sh-t on the table for all to see?

JD1 - i agree

John Doe, your digestive system comment had me truly LOL for quite a bit of time. It even morphed here into a Crohn's disease poster idea for awareness (I have it, so I try to cope with humor) and how we could put your idea to use. I mean hey, when it all comes down to it "in the end" right? These protesters are out of their minds and no one agrees with them and they are doing a disservice. I have children old enough to know about these things and they say all it does it make people more apt to "buck the system" and do what they want to do. Gentle and caring education is the way to go with something like this and these protesters are totally missing the way to get their information through to people. Shock and Awe doesn't work anywhere.

how true - the truth & ugliness should be included . . .

No axe - but you may want to inform yourself and take a look at the curriculum. Keep your CAPS in check - sounds like you have the axe and not me. Just telling it like it is....

JD1 - you tell Mike Lurz to "Keep your CAPS in check", but say "Free speech can get ugly" right before in another post. That is his freedom of speech. GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT - JUST TELLING IT LIKE IT IS...

JD: I definitely hear what you are saying.

Mike, you as a parent sound like you're actually doing your job. I wish our society had more of you.
I just wonder if schools have, over time, been almost forced into this position of teaching sex ed.

so true!

for the very last time (wondering now if they can read, I'M NOT IN A GROUP - I WOULD NEVER EVER STOOP TO SUCH TACTICS AS WESTBORO IS PARTICIPATING IN . . . oh, well . . . i'm exhausted trying to defend crisis pregnancy centers and myself . . .

I agree with John Doe, a loss to the Steelers is preferable...

However, I disagree with the point expressed in the comment above. Citizens have the right to express an opinion (yes, even using [or especially using] methods we find repugnant). Citizens do not have the right to use violence to express an opinion or prevent others from legally expressing an opinion. Also, expressing most any opinion after a game at Ravens stadium (actually M & T Bank Stadium) after a loss, where a some proportion of fans are likely to be drunk, is likely to lead to violence.

Evets - I agree with you - violence is never an answer. That proves my point. These 'disciples' of the unborn fetus specifically map out areas and times where there is less likely to be violence, such as a busy road where you can't stop during a rush hour, or a school during a time where the kids have to go in or they will be tardy. Now, if these "educators" want to really get their point across, then they should have a float at the Macy's Parade on Thanksgiving morning with a floating fetus right in front of Snow White to teach her a lesson. I would love to hear Al Roker comment on that!

Doubt that Macy's would allow that, and since they are a private entity and not the goverment, that is their right.

I think protesters have their event in palces wherre they will likely gets lots of publicity, as this article in the Patch demonstrates.

I figured...