As I am someone who is very experienced in development, having developed Perry Hall Crossing I and II homes built by Ryan and NV Homes which you may be living in, FIFA is pretty much right on the mark.

It typically takes 6-9 months from the start of construction to have the streets necessary to build homes. A model home can be started almost immediately if it is accessible to nearby water and sewer. If D.R. Horton is not out of this job within 18 months after streets are built they will be very disappointed. The "spring" is defined as the middle of June, good weather permitting they may have base paving done by then. If done sooner than that, they are "rushing" the development which is typical of larger developers like D.R. Horton and streets may fail and need refurbishing. They are motivated by meeting profit margins and profit targets because they are a public company unlike regional builders who are motivated by positive customer feedback.

Good luck to D.R. Horton in meeting their obligations to customers and stockholders, their ultimate dictator.

Just confirms for us that you'd be rather foolish to invest in this development as a potential home buyer :)

Acting on my recommendations, the County Council downzoned 263 acres in Perry Hall to limit future development along places like the Silver Spring Road corridor and near Chapel and Joppa Roads. The County Council placed 72 acres of Perry Hall land into open space zoning. Perry Hall now has more open space zoning than any other community in Baltimore County. As for Chapel Road, the funding to widen this road has been removed from the budget.

IMHO, Chapel Rd. does not need to be expanded, but rather improved to County standards for one lane each way, with one sidewalk - from Joppa to Belair Rd.

These 39 homes will not overload Chapel Rd., but the increased traffic needs to feel comfortable using it with school buses, ambulances, and/or fire trucks coming at them in the opposite direction.

Just my opinion...

i cant wait to sell my 2 acres in Perry Hall to a developer in 30 years and retire some place cheaper.

Mr. Roberts, if you have an issue with my performance in office, it is certainly your right to post it on an Internet forum, but perhaps you could also meet with me or communicate it another way.

It's very easy to say you want open space conserved--but at the same time, you want propertyowners to have the right to subdivide their land for development! Acting on my recommendations, the County Council lowered the zoning on 263 acres of land. The private property that was downzoned CANNOT be stripped of all of its development potential. The propertyowners will still make a profit, but not at a level that overdevelops the land.

As for the library, maybe you were not around ten years ago, but I strongly supported the library being rebuilt at the Belair Road location. I worked very hard to retain the library there, but the decision was made to relocate the branch at another site. My goal was a new library, which Perry Hall received--and the Perry Hall Improvement Association negotiated a covenant agreement with the landowner so the Belair Road property remained acceptable to the community.

You say that "every time [you] see something involving [me] it seems to regard something objectionable." Maybe you object to the resurfacing of local roads, air conditioning at Seven Oaks Elementary School, or the creation of two greenways totaling 54 acres of protected land--but I think most people welcome these improvements and know I work hard for this community.

I'm not going to engage in a dialogue with you on an Internet board except to say this: those of us who fought for a new library, and for the branch to stay at the current location, would have appreciated your help ten years ago. I don't seem to remember your involvement then, or anytime since.

...and the 'New York' Giants and Jets play in New Jersey...

what? we're not allowed to be called a resident of Perry Hall unless we have a 21128 zip code? Most of it is still Perry Hall. Just because the tiny post office at 21128 couldn't handle the volume; it isn't as if the boundaries moved.

I have to agree here. Living in the middle and having had access to the White Marsh library and combating all the lights and traffic and the Belair Road turns years ago into the PH Library, I'll take the easy to access library on Honeygo any day. It's well designed, spacious and easy to access on foot or by vehicle from any direction really. Yes, the White Marsh library is quite a distance I would agree.

According to MapQuest.com entering the address for each library:
The distance is
3 mins / 1.35 miles !!!
I would wager that Joppa View is about the same distance from White Marsh as to Perry Hall or just about. Perry Hall Elementary was closer to the old library location. Gunpowder not too far from the new library but old one was closer. Seven Courts..old location was certainly closer. As per posts below as well.. yes, the new Perry Hall Library is very nice. Not disputing that. What is at question is the nature of both the ''main street'' or community feel that is jokingly being promoted in Perry Hall and other things that sound nice like open spaces that seem to hurt local residents and don't help the Gunpowder.

Tell me how to get from the old Perry Hall Library to the new one with sidewalk. (Perhaps it is possible now -- it certainly wasn't last time when I tried this and surely for well over a year after library was built)

http://www.publiclibrariesnews.com/
""Bilbary founder Tim Coates on what libraries need - Argues libraries should be within walking distance. (for their survival..""
Humor me, I know almost no one walks anymore but for the point of our conversation about the location of the library -- it used to be walkable (relatively easily) from Seven Courts Road to Pinedale Drive from Klausmeier Road and all the roads in between. Honeygo has sports fields, library, etc. etc. and all of this older area has diddly squat. What little it did have was taken away. I'd like to hear about plans to revitalize these areas and create community and not for areas with new developments and shopping centers. Plenty of that already.

Mr. Roberts, I used Google maps which put it at 4.7 miles. It clearly is not 1.35. You are entitled to your opinions but not your own facts. Perhaps you should drive it and let us know what your odometer says.

I'm not sure if you even live in the neighborhood because anyone that does live here knows you walk northeast on Belair Road to Honeygo Blvd, then make a right and walk to the library. There are sidewalks the entire way. Be careful around the Royal Farms as there is road construction there, I assume you know about if you live here.

Have a nice day Mr. Roberts, your comments speak for you. Welcome to Perry Hall, get to know us, most of us like living here.

The discrepancies are intriguing Evets between the map programs. For Google or your map program to have a difference of nearly a mile is puzzling.

I presumed Mr. Roberts wanted sidewalks the entire way and I thought a piece of Forge Road near the funeral home did not have them as the road was blocked once Honeygo opened. It is shorter that way. I hope Mr. Roberts is quick crossing Honeygo at Forge. Might be safer Honeygo at Belair where there are crosswalk signals. :)

There is no mystery here. Go to Mapquest.com and put in the address for Perry Hall Library and White Marsh Library, both found on the internet. Mapquest shows the exact route and is accurate. Can't speak to the other sites.

Regarding ''liking living in Perry Hall'' Well - I do but liking somewhere doesn't mean being content with it in all regards.
I like myself. That doesn't mean that I might not to go on a diet or take a class in something. I find faults with myself exactly because I do like me..the same goes with Perry Hall. If I didn't like PH and found it a lost cause, there would be no reason to point out faults.

Should I like that our drivers almost never stop as required by law at crosswalks and the police do nothing?
Should I like that in the 21st century some of our schools don't have air conditioning and unfortunately metal detectors? No parks, no library no nothing in Seven Courts to Pinedale to Klausmeier area.
On the positive -- great Christmas spirit (decorations) , relatively clean and well landscaped. Perry Hall Christmas Tree lighting -- pathetic.

Thanks for clarification regarding roads -- Yes, I use to try walking via Forge Road, no sidewalk there and from that point the road was closed in one direction so you had to walk through a development. It was walkable but not too pleasant wet shoes etc. because of long grassy areas. Never tried Honeygo. When walking over a mile that is already making the walk a lot longer.

Mr. Roberts, this will be my last comment to you as it is appears to me that you know very little of Perry Hall and very little of MapQuest.

I just used MapQuest to see what could possibly be wrong with their program. As it turns out, nothing is wrong with their program, something is wrong the way you input the directions. MapQuest comes up with 3.85 miles like Evets said with MapMyRide.

Regarding parks on the west side of Belair Road, the open space and fields at Gunpowder Elementary and Seven Oaks Elementary lead to nice walking.

But perhaps you could take some classes at the Seven Oaks Senior Center on Seven Courts? I understand they have all sorts of activities for seniors.

Have a good day sir, be careful walking, Seven Courts is difficult to cross.

FIFA,
Also there is a Park off Seven Courts Drive in Oakhurst at the end of Sylvan Oak Way, I believe it is called Oakhurst Park. It is maintained by Baltimore County Rec. and Parks and falls under Perry Hall Rec Council. Small Trail Path and Playground with benches.

As Paul notes below, the Honeygo Plan was established in 1994, and it was publicized in the Sunpaper and the local news. I lived in Overlea at the time, but I noted that Honeygo was planned to a greater degree than most urban sprawl. Planned growth for Owings Mills was announced around the same time (I don't think that worked out quite as well.)

Philadelphia to Richmond is the most densely-populated corridor in the country. It is inevitable that areas around these cities would become crowded. The only way to stem the density is to zone for larger lots, which raises the price of admission. Too late for that, and the Baltimore market couldn't support it anyway.

Before we built in Honeygo my wife spent time at the County planning offices to find out where good areas were, and to find out what was planned near the areas we were considering. It's amazing how much help they were when they knew that someone was interested in their work. A box of doughnuts had them all gathered around and enthusiastic. We found out about sewer routings that would be less than desirable, and future development plans that might affect our choice. We saw all of the new developments along Forge Rd. before they were even dug.

Most of the Perry Hall area is either built or under construction now so it might not do any good to check it out now, but it might help in your next search.

I dunno. I'm raising my family here. NO regrets. I feel plenty safe.

I'd like to post out some Baltimore County crime statistics:

Homicides - 2003: 31 ---> 2011: 30
Rape - 2003: 211 ---> 2011: 142
Robbery - 2002: 1609 ---> 2011: 1451
Burglary - 2003: 5372 ---> 2011: 4477
Theft - 2003: 18986 ---> 2011: 17840

I could go on, but the links to the rest are below. Cold, hard facts.

So Seriously? Here's your clue.

Put it to good use, stop giving in to fear.

http://resources.baltimorecountymd.gov/Documents/Police/2005_pdfs/pd_IndexCrimes2004.pdf
http://resources.baltimorecountymd.gov/Documents/Police/2012pdfs/indexcrimes120621.pdf

Perry Hall has its problems, but it's still quite awesome. Having an excellent representative in David Marks has helped a great deal.

Tim, I see the stats you've put up and I'm glad there aren't any huge increases in crime numbers, however, regardless of the numbers, I believe that the areas in Baltimore County are seeing a shift in the places that crimes occur. When was the last time you read about attempted carjackings in the shopping center where Lowes is? Gun involved crime at the mall? The neighborhoods with break-ins seems to be increasing in this area. When my family first moved here three decades ago, it was busy here, not rural at all and there were no glass doors being smashed or drug deals with stabbings, carjackings etc. I can look at numbers all day but Baltimore County is a really big place and I think that crime is spreading into new areas, regardless of what a chart says.

NottinghamFamily: The only crimes that have gone up in this particular area are drug related. I posted different stats last week specifically for this region off the BC site.

It showed that Break-ins, Violent crimes, etc all equal or down compared to three years ago. Everything but drug busts/crimes. I was doing different Patch 'research' at the time.

Respectfully, It's 95% perception versus reality. Think of how radically different the new media is now, compared to just five years ago. This perception feeds into a false, exaggerated reality that 98% of people won't actually fact check.

Another example of perception over reality: The BC police chopper. Every time you guys see it, instead of feeling safer, you collectively feel freaked out.

All this stuff was going on back then, it just was never reported like this.

Tim, I could care less about your statistics, the only one I know is that one of my neighbors had his house broken into and another had an attempted break in and I have seen too many police helicopters flying around with search lights on, one as recently as Sunday. My next move will be out of this blue state and into a red state.

@Seriously, you wouldn't have done any better if you chose Timonium. This area has really been going downhill over the past 10 years. The imposition of the Crime Train (Light Rail) has helped accelerate the decline.

If you don't care about statistics, then I don't know what else to tell you.
There's no helping those who refuse to be helped.

You are a prime example of what I just mentioned. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion - but it's factually false.

You are right Paul, I should have done my homework. I assumed since I purchased a house on a dead end street my immediate part of the community would not be affected, which it hasn't been so far. But even so, they didn't have a crime planner back then. I should have known with more people comes more crime.

Not per capita, necessarily.

I presume you are being sarcastic. You moved here 5 years ago and now are complaining about those following you? Har dee har har!

Chances are good that all of those new homes were staked out (virtually) when you moved. Now your choices are: live with it; buy up some of those lots and make them your own "green space"; move to another area. If you choose the last, do your homework first so you won't be disappointed again.

We are glad that we chose the older established neighborhood of Seven Courts when we came here 12 years ago. Pretty much guarantees no further development in the immediate area.