Kacy,
Thanks for reminding us that white people can be idiots too, however, the people of Perry Hall have witnessed many acts of crime and vandalism over the last few decades. Most of that crime has to do with "visitors" from the city looking to see what the folks in Perry Hall have to offer (for free!). The statistics on crime don't lie.

Paul, statistics don't give anyone free reign to be prejudiced.
People with intelligence don't judge a book by its cover, but it seems those are in short supply around here.

Dear Tim,
People with intelligence use common sense and don't avoid the obvious because it may offend someone. We need to look at the prison population, (The worst of the worst in society), collect data and draw out own conclusions without fear of being called unflattering names.

Dear Marty,

Although people (non-specifically) who don't learn from the past are destined to repeat it, it says nothing about pre-judging people of any race, gender, or orientation before something happens.

Once again, you are making a correlation that's simply flawed. You're using a current inmate population to effectively assume if not damn thousands of other good people of that same race.

You want to judge current criminals released after prison of any race, that's fine.
Unfortunately, you're feebly using statistics of other people, raised differently, to cover up sad prejudices..

Dear Tim,
It is rare that I can find someone with a differing opinion on such matters and have a civil conversation. I appreciate this. I'd like to try to steer this conversation away from race and say this. With people in prison, it is usually "Nature vs Nuture". Nature is your genetics, nurture is the way your mother raised you. I don't believe its genetic, white or black, with the people in prison, sociopaths excluded. I believe its the way their mothers raised them. I believe too many mothers, black and white, teach their children to "BLAME SOCIETY FOR THEIR OWN UNHAPPINESS". I agree with Herman Cain when he said "If your unemployed, blame yourself, don't blame Wall Street" As far as learning from the past, I hope many people learn from the past and, perhaps, vote diffrently in November 2012.

As far as the "Racist posts" comments made by Kacy I would like to ask, "Do you consider Rev. Wright a racist? I do
Thanks
Marty

what about steve gardner Kacy ? hes white too right ? btw Im italian , not white

Marty,

Of course I believe that both nature and nurture factor into the equation. It'd be intellectual dishonest to discount it. Many wealthy kids have absentee parents and turn into rotten apples. Many poor kids have excellent parents and turn out great. Others simply won't due to their innate nature. Parenting one way or the other mitigates this "natural baseline" of our children.
It's one thing that we collectively, as parents, can control.

I am 50/50 on Cain's commentary about the Occupy Wall Street group. He's not entirely wrong, but he's not entirely correct either. Occupy Wall Street is about much more then simply being unemployed. Without getting TOO deep into this on this particular thread, I'll just suggest that the lack of organized messaging really hurts the movement.
It's got some valid points and purpose, but it does nothing to develop that message, unlike the Tea Party which did a great job of this.

Oh, and of course Rev Wright is racist. It's all sad. Slightly more understandable? Sure. Counterproductive to humanity going forward? You bet.

Sorry to hear the owner missed the suspects. Be glad to give him some shooting lessons.

Not in the People's Republic of Maryland. It breaks my heart when I always see the little MD under states prohibited in adds to have stun guns. They prevent rapes and many murders elsewhere. Criminals have them. We don't.

I totally agree Bill. It's ridiculous that stun guns/weapons are illegal in this state.

it's also ridiculous we can't join Beer of the Month clubs or similar things in this state either, but that's a gripe for another time :)

Databases don't determine the behavior of a given person, color regardless.
Again, folks love to confuse the real causes of crime, and in too many cases shamelessly and sadly project this onto the color of their skin - as if that has any factor alone.

I'll continue to rail against racism within my own "race". You can understand statistics and still not project that unfairly onto others. We didn't even had a suspect until today, which makes the prejudice especially rich in this case.

Crime is caused by many things, but race isn't one of them.

Paul: I was attempting to be careful to not point you out specifically. Sorry if you took it that way.
You know of the folks posting around here I am referring to, though.