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Perry Hall Slated for 49 Acres of Protected Open Space

County Councilman David Marks has plans to protect two areas along Honeygo Boulevard from nearly all development.

At least 49 acres in Perry Hall neighborhoods could be designated as open space by the end of the summer, County Councilman David Marks announced on Tuesday. The classification would prohibit nearly all future development in those areas.

Marks was the principal sponsor of a bill, passed by the County Council in March, that created a new zoning classification known as Neighborhood Commons.

He first plans to apply it to two areas in Perry Hall:

A map showing the designated areas is attached in PDF.

“This will be the first time the open space zoning overlay will be used in Baltimore County, and we will use it to protect nearly 50 acres of land in eastern Perry Hall along Honeygo Boulevard,” Marks stated in a press release. “This is also the first zoning decision I have made in Perry Hall, but there will be others to come that will lower the level of future development.”

The classification has garnered support from Perry Hall Improvement Association President Dennis Robinson, Tremper Farms Homeowners Association President Joyce Shinsky, Northgate Hall Community Association President Jerome Lee, and Maryland State Fish and Game Protective Association President David Van Sant, according to Marks.

“The Perry Hall Improvement Association supports the application of the Neighborhood Commons zoning designation to these properties because it is consistent with the organization's goal of promoting sustainable growth in Perry Hall,” Robinson stated in the release.

The designation will go before the County Council for approval in August.

Marks has been a proponent of downzoning in the Perry Hall area since taking office in 2010. He first announced plans to lower the development potential of nearly 300 acres of land in Perry Hall in December 2011. The Baltimore County Office of Planning, however, has stated its opposition to nearly all of the downzoning proposals, claiming that they would needlessly devalue the land.

Marks' proposals and the Office of Planning's stance, as well as Planning Board recommendations and community feedback, will be factored into the county's 2012 Comprehensive Zoning Map Process, which reexamines zoning designations every four years. The County Council is scheduled to vote on the final zoning map by Sept. 16.

Do you think Perry Hall is in need of more open space? Tell us in the comments which areas you believe should be protected from development.

Related Topics: Perry Hall Development, Perry Hall construction, and Perry Hall open space

joe

11:09 am on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

There's so much traffic along 43 and Honeygo Blvd....so go ahead and build more, build, build, build. WTF

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Jeffrey Smith

11:21 am on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Clearly, you missed the point of this article ... the new zoning classification would "prohibit nearly all future development in those areas," (see last sentence of the first paragraph). Thus, there wouldn't be anything built on these parcels ... isn't that what you want???

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DS

11:24 am on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Good job Mr Marks - nice to read good news every now and then!

Nicole K.

11:35 am on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

This is great for this area. There is too much congestion and too much traffic speeding way too fast, especially on Ebenezer. Preserving this space is critical for livability and value of this part of the Perry Hall community. I think this is a very smart decision.

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Murph

1:15 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

I agree with Nicole K.

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Arlow

10:18 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

And too fast on Silver Spring, too.

Tim

1:19 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Great job Councilman Marks!

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CarneyGirl

1:26 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Great job Councilman Marks! Thank you a hundred times over for protecting open space. We are tired of banks and fastfood joints paving the planet.

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Other Tim

7:45 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

What is it with people ragging on fast food so much? There are more pharmacies, chinese carry outs, sub and pizza shops, jewelry stores, auto shops, and on and on than there are fast food places in this area. And by the way, all these different types of businesses seem to be doing fairly well, so someone doesn't mind all the development.
I personally feel there is already too much "protected open space" around here. What we have seems to be rarely used. I live just behind one section of the Gunpowder State Park (and there are several sections) and hardly ever see people using it. We have the entire Loch Raven watershed (technically private property, but Baltimore City doesn't seem to mind us using it), the farms along Cromwell Bridge Road, and several smaller parks.

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Tim

8:37 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Other Tim:

It's a vicious cycle.

1) The fast foods make everyone fat.
2) Then they all get high blood pressure, heart attacks, etc etc and then they need the pharmacies.
3) The prescription costs are largely ridiculous in this country depending on your policy, (especially older folks on medicare) so next thing you know, you actually need to shop at the dollar store.

So you see, it's all the big "circle of American lifestyle" that's doing WAY more to raise health care costs in this country then any type of "individual mandate".

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Tim

8:42 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Of course, I ate a couple cake pops for desert tonight (wife made them for GS bake sale) so I failed my health check today. Can't win 'em all, but you can win a lot of them :)

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Other Tim

9:58 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Again ragging on fast food. What about the sub and pizza shops, chinese restaurants, 44 ounce big gulps at 7-11, huge breakfast platters at Double T, ice cream at Baskin Robbins, not to mention the bad personal choices made every day by lots of people in the grocery store. It is the "circle of American lifestyle" that is doing it. Fast food doesn't help, but it's only a fraction of the problem.

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Tim

11:09 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Other Tim: Oh, I know and agree.
I just saw your initially replyand it was a good opportunity to break out last night's post, it mentally all just fell into place ;)

Susan Tagliaferro

2:27 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

I also think this is great. BUT it would be nice to us some of this space to build a new high school since perry hall was named the 7th most crowded in the United
States. That is a priority!

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Jimmy

3:25 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

I should have been a priroity 10 or more years ago, but for some reason, PH keeps on falling between the cracks, Almost 20 years ago, I noticed on the map a proposed HSor maybe it was a Middle School, proposed to be built adjacent to Nottingham Park...20 years later, and still not even in the planning phase. When will PHHS be renovated or replaced? Carver and Dundalk are getting new schools. A large addition is being added to Parkville, And Loch Raven is below capacity. Why are there 2500 students in a school designed for 1800?

DK

2:58 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Agree Susan....Where will a High School be built ???

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Fed Up

3:09 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

This is all pointless how can you “prohibit development in those areas” when it was never allowed to begin with.

From Mr. Marks himself
Northgate Hall Association owns 18.9 acres of open space that was deeded to the H.O.A. by the original developer. Under the terms of the deed that land cannot be developed, but is deeded for the exclusive use of the H.O.A. members, subject to rules and regulations established by the H.O.A. Board of Directors.
However all “common areas” owned by all local H.O.A.s have zoning designations that are not appropriate for these areas. Many have zoning that are associated with development even though there is no development potential.

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Jimmy

3:30 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Developments need open space that will not be developed to fulfill zoning limits. R5.5 means there can be 5 1/2 houses built on an acre. If there are more than this (such as in a Townhouse development) opne space must be landscaped for the development to meet this restriction. Is this the case with the 18.9 acres in this development? If it is, it doesn't seem to need legislation to keep it from being developed.

H Long

3:26 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Yea for the HS - Then we could turn the HS property into a giant sports complex like Blandair in Columbia and then turn Honeygo back into woods

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Kim Ruark

9:36 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

You seem to have the residents' best interests at heart, Councilman Marks. Thank you!! I'm glad it won't get MORE dangerous to try to get out of the Joppa View Elem. lot anytime soon.

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Kim Ruark

9:37 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

And there's no reason for nameless cowardice here... If you're going to curse your neighbor, do it privately.

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David Marks

10:05 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

To those concerned about a new high school: I have fought for more than a decade for a new school. Ten years ago, when the economy has stronger and the county was flush with money, the county should have bought the land. My rezoning decisions will at least lighten the impact of future development until the county can afford the $60 million cost of a new school.

Fed Up - with all due respect, even anonymous commenters should know their facts. There is a different Mr. Marks involved in the homeowners association.

As far as the value of Neighborhood Commons legislation, with homeowners associations often collapsing, the purpose of the bill was to add another level of protection so open space can not be developed.

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Fed Up

8:31 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

With all due respect I am aware of the other Mr. Marks and to be fair I’ll just post the entire letter.

From: David Marks Baltimore County Councilman Fifth District
About Those Zoning Change Letters
Recently, members of the Northgate Hall Homeowners Association (H.O.A.) received letters from Baltimore County concerning area zoning changes.
Every property in Baltimore County has a zoning designation that includes schools, libraries, parks, and even “common areas” owned by the local Homeowners Association.
Northgate Hall Association owns 18.9 acres of open space that was deeded to the H.O.A. by the original developer. Under the terms of the deed that land cannot be developed, but is deeded for the exclusive use of the H.O.A. members, subject to rules and regulations established by the H.O.A. Board of Directors.
However all “common areas” owned by all local H.O.A.s have zoning designations that are not appropriate for these areas. Many have zoning that are associated with development even though there is no development potential.
To correct this situation, I have proposed a new zoning designation that would preserve H.O.A. “open spaces” in Baltimore County neighborhoods.
During the present re-zoning process, a new “Neighborhood Common Overlay District” that would preserve the “open spaces” concept and would prohibit development in H.O.A. common areas that are reserved for that purpose.

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Fed Up

8:32 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

This new zoning classification would be known as NC-DR1. Neighborhood common designation under the proposed legislation members of an H.O.A. are notified of a potential zoning change. That is why you may have received a letter from Baltimore County concerning such a change.
The Comprehensive Zoning Maps Process is presently underway; and throughout the fifth district, I have proposed lowering the development potential of about 480 acres in my councilmanic district.
This legislation is a big plus in providing even more certainty to Northgate Hall as it will protect valuable open space.
Should anyone have any questions about any county issue, please call me at (410) 887-3384 or email me at DMARKS@baltimorecountymd.gov.
Sincerely,
David Marks

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Gregg Roberts

9:00 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

It is ''great'' seeing how are tax money goes to help developers attract homebuyers. The message is crystal clear. Older neighbors will be left to decay with no consideration from the government to add amenities like parks and green spaces. All public money will go to new areas to make them more attractive for the developers.
County went so far as to deprive ''old'' Perry Hall of a library. After years of promising a larger library, new library was built just minutes from White Marsh Library to add convenience to new homebuyers of two close-by large libraries.
Please tell me about one planned project between Joppa Road and Chapel Road funded by taxpaper money that is designed simply to enhance life of the residents to the same caliber and extent as all the projects in the new Honeygo area. There should be an investigation as to why all funds are being channeled to this area.

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Ryan

10:59 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Might also have something to do with the lack of land in “old” Perry Hall. But I guess you are correct, probably a conspiracy of some sort.

Kris

9:31 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Another great job by Marks. We need more like you. To *&%^ with the naysayers.

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Andrew

9:47 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

This seems very redundant. Its stated that it can not be developed, so who cares what the zoning is. While redundancy is good (in some cases), this just seems like a waste of time/my money.

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Bill Libercci, Se.

10:55 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

My problem with this new government ploy to confiscae private property is just that, On the whim of a government employee, in this case a councilperson, a private property owner can lose all of the valuie in his/her property. If the property owner had to agree to this designation this would an entirely different situation. I am surprised to see the number of infromed people who think this is a good idea. The end does not justify the means in this case.
Wmlsr

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Spring Heeled Jack

11:13 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

We need to slow the developments in Perry Hall. I have been here for 22 years and this place is way different then what it used to be. Higher crime, more reckless driving, over crowding, faster roads, more red lights, more traffic, ect. It has to stop somewhere. My greatest anger was when Honeygo Blvd. became the highspeed Honeygo exit road for Harford County residents to go to work and get home. Its time to end the developments. If you own a few acres and missed out on the massive development phase... oh well! Can't always be a winner.

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Joyce Kahl Bowers

12:59 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

For those that own a few acres in Perry Hall and still want to be a winner they can hold on to the valuable resource that they have or they can wait until the next development boom. Perry Hall is not the same small town that I remember from the 50ies to the 80ies but development does happen, if not now then later. In the end it;s the land owner's right and decision.

Emily Kimball

11:03 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

UPDATE (June 19)—See Perry Hall's proposed open space, in photos - http://patch.com/A-vv2q
Does open space classification needlessly devalue land, or does it provide a worthwhile community benefit? Tell us in the comments.

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