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Parents: Rock-Paper-Scissors, a Dangerous Game?

At my son's Perry Hall school, "shoot" is a dirty word.

 

UPDATE (3:48 p.m.)—Gunpowder Elementary responded to the column. Find the full article here, Gunpowder Elementary: 'We Didn't Take Away Rock-Paper-Scissors'.

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My son is a kindergartner, and a few weeks ago he and his classmates were reprimanded with a short lecture for playing Rock-Paper-Scissors. They are no longer allowed to play the game because participants say "rock-paper-scissors SHOOT," before displaying their fingers to see who wins.

Why?

Not because the winner bashes the loser's hand, but because they were yelling the word "SHOOT," which has connotations to a gun—making his juvenile game a potential safety risk. I can only assume that because teachers are hearing the word "SHOOT" all over the playground, with groups of students huddled in packs, they need to be able to determine when it's an actual threat.

Really? I found myself both chuckling at this new "rule" and rolling my eyes. There's no official mandate. In fact, I only heard the new restriction because I happened to be volunteering when the principal was talking to my son's class.

After school, I spoke with my son, and he admitted he had been playing the game. We spoke about why talking about shooting anything was wrong inside school, and he understood.

I agree that kids shouldn't be bringing weapons into school, and I want nothing more than to guarantee that my son is 100 percent safe the entire time he is in  school. And yes, they are young enough to re-learn the game and say "Rock-Paper-Scissors GO," instead. But isn't this kind of ridiculous?

I mean really, what happens at a basketball game, or during gym when they are play soccer? How does the coach instruct the kids to shoot on goal or learn to aim a foul shot?  Is that terminology forbidden as well?

Seems that most of us parents shouting at games would find ourselves being reprimanded, as we emphatically scream "shoot, shoot!" at our kids from the sidelines.

By no means am I suggesting we put our kids intentionally at risk, nor would I encourage them to bring water guns to school, have sword fights or say the words, "gun," "kill," "bomb," etc. But I am asking that they use common sense when making rules about innocent childhood games. Why haven't they banned Mercy or tackle football—my son plays both games during recess. Don't they sometimes inflict pain on participants?

I'm all for school safety, and for rules and procedures that ensure our children are protected from harm. We should closely monitor the language our kids use. Parents play a critical role in making sure kids understand right from wrong, and recognizing the warning signs of kids in trouble.

But while kids have to understand that their words and actions have consequences, prohibiting silly games seems to be the least of our worries.

Related Topics: ban in schools, child games, and rock paper scissors

Evets

6:38 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I suppose the Perry Hall football team no longer has plays run out of the 'shotgun' formation, nor should the QB be throwing any long 'bombs' for touchdowns. No more penalty 'shots' in soccer. No 'shot' put for the track team. I suppose it is a good thing that Perry Hall does not have a rifle team...

Do you think the kids wonder why the adults are being so silly?

Roni

7:18 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

In my opinion this brings attention to an otherwise harmless situation. Words been different things in different context. Geesh.

PerryHallCrafter

7:57 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Yes, let's ban tons of words just in case we offend someone or cause upset. Let's start with all the words and connotations suggested in Evets post above, but don't stop there! No longer will nosegays be referred to as such; part of that word is too touchy. Don't say "raise the roof" because that could be an allusion to a bomb blowing the roof off of a building. Instead of saying, "shoot, I can't believe I forgot my homework", let's say "tiddlywinks" instead. Instead of, "that movie was the bomb", we'll say, "Golly gee, that movie sure was swell" and then go home to watch "Leave it to Beaver" reruns. Good grief.

Neil B

8:19 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

That it amazing. I wish you mentioned what school you were at. I may need to move. Rock, Paper, Scissors is evil?

Tim

10:38 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Ridiculous, Stacey. Just ridiculous.

Maybe I'll train E to say "Go" instead of "Shoot" lol

Jeanne

10:40 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Kids need to be kids and that includes all the safe games that come with being kids. Kids grow up to fast as it is, please don't take their harmless fun away just because of one word

William Lutostanski Jr

10:42 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

This is the same line of thinking that has led to such nonsense such as not having a Halloween parade, due to safety issues. What safety issues? The only thing I can think of is mass confusion if there was a sudden zombie apocalypse, I mean how could you tell who was a zombie and who was just in costume.

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PerryHallCrafter

11:23 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Priceless. As far as I know, we are still on green with the Zombie alert system, so we should be OK this year. Preparedness is the key really.

John Doe

11:24 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Does anybody remember Saturday morning cartoons back in the 70's? Go watch and listen to the language. I watched it and never acted on things they said or did because I HAD A GOOD MOM that taught me right from wrong.

JTF

11:23 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Seems like school administrators want to put restrictions on free speech.

Tim Montoya

11:22 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

This is nuts. You can ban words and all types of activities, but that doesn't mean that you child will be any less likely to be assaulted or shot. When will leadership and legislators realize that you cannot protect everyone all the time. When I went to school, we were still allowed to play tackle football at recess and weren't allowed to talk disrespectfully towards teachers. If anyone cursed at a teacher it was an automatic suspension.

Look what goes on in schools now. Dodgeball is banned, recess is relegated to sitting in a corner so no on gets hurt and the students treat the teachers like 3rd class citizen instead of like role models and authority figures.

Yeah, let's stay on the same course we're on. It seems to be working really well.

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David Roberts

11:58 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Teachers should be treated with the courtesy and respect that a civilized person would give any other person. I am not sure that just because someone is a teacher that they automatically gain the status of a role model. I teach my kids be be respectful, but to always question authority and to think for themselves.

Renee

11:20 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I know this did this in the city which I thought was ridiculous, but here? They draw more attention to an innocent kids game when the kids thought nothing of it. As for those in this house, it will always be 'rock, paper, scissors, shoot'!! And I, my brother, and my father were all held up at gunpoint (with the gun being held to our head) throughout the years and we take no offense to this childhood game!!!

Doug Wood

11:20 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Shoot...this is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard!!!! What's next "eenie, meenie, minie, moe"...I'm sure some idiot can find something offensive about that!!! Get a clue folks!!!!

Allison Eatough

11:48 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

When my daughter learned to play this game at school, she kept saying "shoe." I asked, don't you mean "shoot?" She said, "No, Mom, it's shoe." Now I understand why.

David Roberts

11:48 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

More absurdity from our public schools. I can only laugh, and keep de-programming my kids of some the utter nonsense that they are taught. I find it hard to believe that someone actually came up with this rule and did not realize how irrational it really is.

SLI

11:49 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

How did us older folks ever manage to grow up normally when we played all these horrible games. But it's okay to let the youngsters of today park their butts in front of a TV and play video games for hours where they shoot, stab, run over with a car and many other forms of killing people. Just a thought.

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David Roberts

12:52 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

That is a great question. I often wonder that myself. There is no way to legislate all the possible unpleasantness from life.

Steve Piunti

11:55 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Really!!!! Have we become this paranoid and delusional!! This is ridiculous!!!

Mark Lundin

12:11 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I guess all of these phrases and activities will also be banned: shoot photographs or video, shoot hoops or baskets, shoot pool, shoot a round of golf, shoot rapids (kayaking), shoot the breeze, shoot for the sky, shoot from the hip. Which words are next?

SLI

12:15 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

So glad my child is grown and out of the school system. I have a feeling I would be spending a lot of time in the principal's office discussing the stupidity of topics like this.

Stacey Schantz

12:47 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I just want to say, that I hope there are no negative repercussions. I also have to say that I have met the principal on multiple occasions in our short tenure at the school, I haven't had any issues or concerns, in fact, as I was in the room during the conversation, I was very impressed with how she explained the new rule to the class. I have no real complaints with the school. As this is our first year in the public school system, I have been more than impressed with the teachers, curriculum, even the cafeteria lunches. My son is absolutely loving school, and I couldn't be more thrilled, learning should be fun. I think that is why I was so taken aback by this new rule. Clearly I don't know the full context as to why the school doesn't want the game played. But, kids are kids, these games have been around long since before I was in elementary school, and it just seems like overkill. Society is shell-shoked by what happened at PHHS, I get that, but it seemed like there are bigger things to be concerned about. BTW, they now play Mercy constantly, and Rock-Paper-Scissors-GO has replaced the offending game terminology, so the kids are unphased by the restriction.

Gomer Pyle

1:41 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I'm surprised they haven't made Gunpowder Elementary change its name. I mean how could anyone send their child to a place with such a violent name! Oh the humanity! This is political correctness gone too far.

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Tim

1:55 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

LOL, that thought had occurred to me. That'll be next.

John Doe

2:19 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Are kids still allowed to play "Chutes and Ladders"?

Michael

3:38 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Ok! Everyone, listen up! The writer of this article hasn't the slightest idea of how wrong she is about the rules in her own son's school. Its NOT because the players say shoot, and it IS in fact because the winner bashes the looser's hand! The EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT SHE SAID! In her "righteous indignation" and over abundance of free time, she seems to have essentially fabricated a story about saying "shoot" at the end of "rock, paper, scissors", and how that's somehow forbidden. She needs to take two seconds to understand that this is NOT the case. And secondly, SHUT UP ABOUT THIS SMALL, INCONSEQUENTIAL, MINOR THING AND GET LIVES OF YOUR OWN YOU WHINNY INSUFFERABLE BLEATING SHEEP!!

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Other Tim

3:46 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

WOW! Tell us how you really feel.

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John McLane

3:53 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Yes, the schools rules are due to the fact that the administration wants to limit that kind of hostile contact, and the author of the above article is under an inaccurate assumption. And yes, the above article is essentially fiction. However, calling everyone "bleating sheep" seems a bit excessive.

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David Roberts

4:32 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I hope you see the irony in your statement.

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Michael

4:49 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Yeah, I'm getting the irony, Dave. Thank you!

Emily Kimball

3:51 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

UPDATE (3:48 p.m.)—Gunpowder Elementary responded to the column. Find the full article here, Gunpowder Elementary: 'We Didn't Take Away Rock-Paper-Scissors' - http://patch.com/A-y3Dk

Michael

4:02 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I'm sorry. I just don't enjoy watching people get into this pitchfork and torch mentality about a thing that doesn't even exist. The amount of stress this must have put on the administration would be ludicrous. Especially considering the fact that they are already RUNNING AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!

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Stacey Schantz

4:07 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Michael, I was in the classroom, the children were specifically told they could not play the game. They haven't taken away Mercy which involves kids bending eachothers hands backwards to the point of pain, and they allow kidergarteners to play tackle football with 4th graders during rececess. The are running a fabulous elementary school, that I agree, but to your above comments about my article being fictitious I wholeheartedly disagree. But then again, aren't we all entitled to our own opinion.

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John McLane

4:08 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Understandable. I know for a fact that the administrative staff and all the teachers at this school are lovely. The author of the article should apologize to the staff of the school. Again though... "bleating sheep"?

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Tim

5:11 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Stress? Over rock/paper/scissors? Really?

I think the only things ludicrous in this thread is:
- your disrespect for a first hand, eye-witness report
- your disrespect for the person reporting it
- your hilarious, over the top hyperbole within your voracious defense of the school.
- Finally, this: SHUT UP ABOUT THIS SMALL, INCONSEQUENTIAL, MINOR THING AND GET LIVES OF YOUR OWN YOU WHINNY INSUFFERABLE BLEATING SHEEP!!

Here's a suggestion: Upgrade that glass house buddy.

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Anonymous

10:49 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012

Stacey,

What are you even talking about? Do you seriously think the school system would allow students to play Mercy during school? If you saw this happen, it was most likely behind a teachers back. There is absolutely no way a teacher would allow this. "But then again, aren't we all entitled to our own opinion."

Mike Lurz

4:09 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I would be happy if they just did their job...you know teach my kids math, science, reading etc...I got the rest of it

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Mike Lurz

4:37 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

yeah...I hope that you sense the frustration in my statement

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Harry

4:38 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

They seem to be doing just fine with mine. Why is everyone so worked up about this?

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David Roberts

4:43 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I also love the lectures about feeding our kids a good breakfast before the MSA tests. As though we normally do not feed them properly. And is it the fact that MSA performance is so crucial that they are only concerned about nutrition at test time?

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Mike Lurz

4:52 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

That good breakfast counts more before the "we get money" test

John McLane

4:14 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Actually Stacy, as I understand it, they have taken away Mercy.

Michael

4:18 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Stacy,
You are entitled to your opinion, sure, but there is a difference between having an opinion and being utterly wrong about a situation. My opinion is that the sky is more of an aqua-marine and not blue. Does that mean I am accurate in my interpretation? The answer is no. And in this case, you are wrong.

Karrin Murphy

5:29 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Tim, you seem like you're on the same ridiculous level as Michael up there. Maybe we all need to relax. The school has already responded and the whole issue is pretty clearly resolved. Micheal, you're clearly pretty whinny yourself, and could take a lesson from your own words. Tim, were you there? Have you spoken to the administration? Micheal, please don't respond to this, its getting out of hand.

JD1

8:44 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Anybody care that kids are sitting in their classes absolutely bored to tears as they are trained for the next test? Sad...

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Tim

9:10 am on Wednesday, October 10, 2012

I dunno, my kid's learning a ton so far, and he's been in class all of a month.

Maybe we'll have this dicussion again in later years.

Anonymous

10:44 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012

I find this article completely ridiculous. Not what the teacher did, but the response of this parent. The kindergarten teacher simply wants his/her room to be as safe as possible. This is one of the ways the teacher is doing this. School is meant to be a place where children can go to feel safe. This teacher is doing exactly that by reducing any harm in the classroom. Considering everything that has happened with Perry Hall High, you would think of all people a PARENT would understand the teachers defense. If this is seriously your biggest concern with the school (which I am assuming it is since you wrote a big article about it), then you are pretty lucky.

Sincerely yours,
Someone who is disappointed in parents in the school system

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