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Baltimore County Councilman for Towson, Parkville, and Perry Hall

Marks: Land Transfer to Protect Honeygo Wooded Property

On Monday, July 2, the Baltimore County Council approved a land transfer that will allow the county to acquire a large wooded property next to the Maryland Fish and Game Protective Association, as well as a small parcel next to the Perry Hall public library. Both parcels are situated along Honeygo Boulevard. 

With this transfer, Baltimore County will create an almost-uninterrupted chain of forests and parks from Joppa View Elementary School to Joppa Road.

The larger piece is a triangular property adjacent to the Maryland State Fish and Game Protective Association and Honeygo Park. It includes 10.8 acres of environmentally sensitive, forested property. It was once the proposed site for a gymnasium, and construction of an access road had started off Honeygo  Boulevard. That land, seen to the right, will now be added to Honeygo Park and protected from all future development. 

The second piece is a rectangular, 1.2 acre property immediately south of the Perry Hall library. A committee I appointed has recommended a playground and ampitheatre at that site. 

The county will trade 9.3 of land with a developer to acquire the 12-acre sites. 

I supported this plan because there was a net gain of parkland for the residents of Perry Hall; because the plan preserves a particularly sensitive area from development; and because the transfer was supported by local community organizations, including the Tremper Farms and Northgate Hall homeowners associations.

Murph

7:53 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

The county needs to implement do something about controlling the traffic speed on the northern part of Honeygo Boulevard between Chapel and Cross Road before thinking about putting in another park. Moreover, it would be beneficial to all if there is either a four-way stop sign or traffic light at Cross Road to slow down the flow of traffic on Honeygo Boulevard. Let's talk priorities here, traffic safety FIRST, then another park.

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Kris

8:27 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Quit your whining Murph. Good job Mr. Marks. Another piece of land preserved. Where was the 9.3 acres we had to trade for it located?

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Cheryl

9:19 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Thank you Mr. Marks for helping to preserve even more property in our community.

Murph, I agree that some people drive too fast on Honeygo. But, most people are level headed and realize they are driving through a residential zone. I drive Honeygo at least twice a day and don't usually see anyone going 55+.

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Murph

9:37 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

It's great that Mr. Marks preserved the properties and kept them out of the developers' grasp. I suppose it is the way I perceive the speed of the cars and all and other people do not perceive it the same way. But it is difficult at times to make a left out of either Gunpowder Farm or Cross Road onto Honeygo Blvd due to the high volume of traffic.

David Marks

9:48 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

The property to be traded is west of Cross Road. Additionally, I should have noted the support of the County Executive's staff. This was a complex action and they were very helpful.

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Joe

9:49 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

David Marks is the man! He has done so much good for our community! Thank you for your hard work and dedication to Perry Hall Mr. Marks!

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Mike Lurz

10:29 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Agreed, particularly appreciate Mr Marks efforts given his predecessor's leaning towards development EVERYWHERE!!

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Mike Lurz

10:36 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Murph, many in the area have complaint of the speed of traffic and the illegal truck traffic on residential streets. I have seen an increased police presence writing tickets and stopping speeders, but the truck traffic goes on unchecked.

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Chris

11:15 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Happy that the property next to library won't be developed. Not sure we need another playground. How about just a nice park area minus the plastic and metal?

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Josh Headley

11:23 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Any chance that we can now get a bridge between the library and Perry Hall Park? With the acquisition of the parcel next to the library, which is slated for a playground, it would make sense to put in a safe method to cross Honeygo, absent a stop light at Cross.

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Kris

12:50 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

A bridge?, sure no problem, but you're buying.

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Paul Amirault

12:57 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

As someone who investigated this matter, $1.2 million to be ADA compliant for a bridge.

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Murph

1:00 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

I'd say a stop light at Cross Road would really slow down the traffic flow on Honeygo. With respects to Josh, it's much cheaper than a bridge.

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Evets

5:08 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

What would slow down the traffic flow on Honeygo (and every other road around here) would be a return to common sense driving and following basic traffic rules, like speed limits, use turn signals, STOP at stop signs and red lights, no cell phones when driving, etc. The cost would be $0 dollars, lives and property would be saved,and people might experience less stress.

However, this would require personal responsibility and respect for others. One can dream...

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nancy sumpter

5:11 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

iT IS DANGEROUS TO CROSS HONEYGO BETWEEN THE LIBRARY AND THE PARK. THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC WHEN SPORTS GAMES ARE GOING ON THERE! GUESS WE'LL GET THE BRIDGE WHEN A YOUNG CHILD GETS HIT BY A CAR.

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Other Tim

8:56 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

Simple answer: speed cameras.

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Other Tim

8:57 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

And use the money to build a bridge.

Honeygo Hal

11:43 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

A great move - thanks to Councilman Marks and (dare I say it?) the County Executive, plus all the others that saw this through.

I think this is an example of smart conservation and reasonable growth.

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Rebecca Berk

12:57 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

This is a highly populated area that is already over developed, so I am glad to see someone is trying to save what precious little natural land is left. This was a great move. Of course traffic is terrible here; too many people are in one small area, but there is nothing that can be done about it at this point. Just deal with it as being a normal way of life here.

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Evets

1:19 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

Speaking of parks, when is the Gough Park at the corner of Joppa and Honeygo going to be completed? Seems close to a decade ago the baseball backstop was put up along with a sign making people aware that a 90' lighted baseball diamond was to be constructed there. Only going up there is weeds. Shame that a park named after the founder of Perry Hall can't get finished...

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David Marks

3:11 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

Evets, Gough Park is fully designed but will cost $3 million to build. That is the hang-up.

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Evets

4:58 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

Maybe the county could work a deal with a developer to exchange some land for $3 million worth of construction services to complete Gough Park. Or partial services at least, like grading the land and laying out ball fields and such.

Also, why wasn't Gough Park finished before Perry Hall Park was constructed? The land for Perry Hall Park was not even cleared nor was Honeygo extended out that way when Gough Park was laid out.

Amy

4:54 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

Thank you Mr. Marks for all that you have done for Perry Hall.

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Gary Staab

4:57 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

Mr. Marks, thanks or all your greatwor!
Question! When will the houses at Cross and Chapel be built, and how are they going to affect the traffic on Chapel Rd.

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Linda

5:10 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

While traveling Honey Go Blvd., I often wondered how long it would be before that wooded property was sold. It's wonderful that it will be preserved in it's current state.

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Steve Redmer

8:22 am on Saturday, July 7, 2012

Anyone know if this was a 2-party trade? did the county just swap land with a developer or were there other parties involved?

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Paul Amirault

9:46 am on Saturday, July 7, 2012

Two party trade - developer purchased the Sokol property and exchanged it and a 2.36 acre parcel next to library for the County owned property. County wins - developer wins. Good deal for both. Good job by Councilman Marks.

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Steve Redmer

9:57 am on Saturday, July 7, 2012

Thanks for the info Paul...and do you know if the property that the county traded the county-owned land west of Cross Road/ between Honeygo & Forge?

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Paul Amirault

10:05 am on Saturday, July 7, 2012

The County owned acreage next to the library and behind the corn field. Thus property that separated the corn field from the homes on Forge Road. At the PH Rec Council we thought we could use it for a future gymnasium, but it was too narrow. With the trade we have the real possibility of a playground (similar to Annie's in Harford County and an amphitheater for summer concerts) immediately adjacent to the library.

Mike Lurz

9:39 am on Saturday, July 7, 2012

A good trade, a bridge for a governor to be named later

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Steve Redmer

6:47 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Can somebody help me, I'm kinda confused as to why this Land Swap is a good thing for Perry Hall...

If what we want is to stop development, and preserve open spaces, then why is trading county-owned land to a developer celebrated as a success?

Isn't it pretty much assured that a Developer will build homes on this property?

If what we want is to preserve open spaces, why wouldn't we just designate the land the county already owns as open space?

I looked at the zoning map, and it seems to me that the 9.3 property that the county traded to the developer is zoned at DR 3.5, which means roughly 30 new homes could be built on Cross Rd.

The 10.6 acre property that we got in the trade is zoned DR 1, and it was stated that it is environmentally "Sensitive"...so at a maximum how many homes could have been built?? by property size I would say 10 homes max, but I would assume that there would be environmental restriction if it is "Sensitive"...so realistically it would be less than 10 homes

so what did we get? a net gain of 2 acres? 3 acres?

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Steve Redmer

6:47 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Is 3 acres of "Extra" open space worth having 30 Brand new homes, in a brand new development really worth it? that's an extra burden on traffic, infrastructure, water, sewer...not to mention our over-crowded schools...

Couldn't we have just kept the 9.3 acres, preserved it as open space and called it a day?

Do you really think developers would have been salivating over that 10 acre lot? zoned DR 1? in an environmentally sensitive area? doesn't sound like a whole lot of profit incentive to me...

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