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Baltimore Crossroads to Host Perry Hall/White Marsh Town Fair

The town fair is expected to move to a mixed-use business center in Middle River.

The 2012 is expected to be held at , a fair planner announced on Wednesday.

Baltimore Crossroads @95 is a mixed-use business center located along in Middle River.

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The 16th annual summer fair is scheduled for July 14, according to Lynn Richardson, president of the , which organizes and sponsors the fair.

"We're looking at this as a very positive thing. The only downside is that it's not in a [Perry Hall or White Marsh] zip code. Now it's become a little more of a regional fair, rather than just a local fair," Richardson told Patch.

Al Cunniff, director of marketing for the center's management company St. John Properties, could not confirm plans for the fair when contacted by Patch on Wednesday.

The 2010 and were held at in Perry Hall. While last year's fair brought record-breaking attendance, estimated at more than 13,000, it also caused and led to with some shopping center tenants.

Richardson that fair planners were seeking a new location.

Some community members had lobbied for the fair to to its former location on the grounds of , where it had been ousted in 2009 with the enforcement of a controversial . But even with a , the school was still unwilling to host the fair, Richardson said.

"I've been fighting this battle for the last six years, and it's not like we haven't made an attempt to make it work somewhere else," she said.

She said the fair's new location has the support of major sponsors, including the and the .

Vendor and sponsor applications will be available on the fair website after Feb. 1.

Baltimore Crossroads @95, with its extensive on-site parking and other accommodations, could provide a long-term site for the fair, Richardson said.

"I would like to finally find the town fair a truly permanent home," she said.

Do you support the fair's new location in a mixed-use business center in Middle River? If you could choose any location to host the fair, where would it be? Tell us in the comments.

John Doe January 19, 2012 at 07:33 PM
K - I will support the local businesses by buying the name tags from Ace Hardware and the sunscreen from Rite Aid.
Tim January 19, 2012 at 07:35 PM
There's always going to be people in need. What makes this individual any more special and worth having a fair in Middle River for? On another note: Did your group ever consider actually scaling back the fair in order to keep it here? See, I once again want to reiterate that I really feel you guys went about this the wrong way. We all realize it wasn’t your goal to move it here. However, there are both positive and negative ramifications to any decision. I would be more inclined to look at the bigger picture, and consider what might happen if your organization 'shocked the system' by cancelling (or, even better, just downsizing it) the fair for one year. Then, your group would have the ability to fashion the narrative, get out ahead of it. Explain why it had to be done. See what happens when you told the community "We didn't want to be forced to have the Perry Hall Town Fair in Middle River, and this is why…” I understand this would cause the economy a good chunk of money. Still, putting this in Middle River sucks the soul out of the fair. The Patch community is just a tiny percentage of folks in the area, however it’s a solid cross section of people. Outside of owning a PC (or having access to one) and caring about the community we live in – we’re all different in some way or another. You see the reaction. Did you guys really expect different?
Tim January 19, 2012 at 07:35 PM
Finally, you've got Lynn Richardson throwing gasoline on the fire by suggesting that this new location might become permanent - and the day AFTER she saw there was an uproar here.
Heather S January 19, 2012 at 08:34 PM
The Perry Hall High School Alumni Association is always willing to accept Scholarship donations and we accept them via paypal as well if you are so inclined! PayPall funds can be sent to perryhallalumni@gmail.com and checks can be sent to Perry Hall High School Alumni Association P.O. Box 303 Perry Hall, MD 21128. Last year's event helped us raise $2500 towards our general fund, all of which goes back to the school, much of which goes directly towards student scholarships (donations can be directed specifically towards scholarships). Holding off for a year would not have been something we would have supported, as it would have significantly impacted the students we support. So much good comes from this event.
Other Tim January 19, 2012 at 11:56 PM
Just occurred to me: I don't remember any big uproar when somewhere along the line the Perry Hall Town Fair became the Perry Hall/ White Marsh Town Fair. It seems everyone is upset because Middle River is now included. What if it went the other direction and included Kingsville? Bet people would not be so upset.
Eric Martin January 20, 2012 at 12:10 AM
It has always been the Perry Hall Town Fair. The Business Association is known as the PH/WM Business Assoc. But, traditionally Perry Hall and White Marsh became almost one in the same with the opening of the White Marsh Mall and Town Center. Kingsville has always been a PH sister community. Middle River is associated more with Essex. That is not a putdown of MR or Essex. It is just a geographic fact. The PH Fair has always been in Perry Hall. It will not be the same community feeling if it is held outside the traditional boundaries of PH.
Sue January 20, 2012 at 12:35 AM
I think this town fair issue has become too political. "It's all about the children" is what I got from Heather S.'s last comment. What surprises me is that some members of the association seemed shocked to hear such reactions as those posted above. How could they not expect such reactions when they are taking what once was a community event of Perry Hall's and moving it into Middle River? This fair is not about the Perry Hall community or its neighbors, it seems more like its only about the businesses and the revenue they want to generate from the event. I agree with some of the previous posts that if you want to make it a community fair again to show up at Honeygo Park and spend the time with your family to get to know your real neighbors. You can also spend your money at the local shops to support local businesses.
BaltimoreDee January 20, 2012 at 02:04 AM
Boycott the businesses who are members of this Business Association! Visit: http://www.phwmba.org/MemberDirectory.html for a listing of its members. For example, the next time a Perry Hall resident requires automotive services, he or she shouldn't give the business to Klausmeier's. But let the business owner know why you didn't take your car to his business.
Paul Amirault January 20, 2012 at 02:10 AM
The purpose being to get Klausmeiers to quit the PHWMBA and thus have them lose members? Is that what you mean?
BaltimoreDee January 20, 2012 at 03:20 AM
No. To get business owners in this organization to rethink the decision they made to move the Perry Hall Fair to Middle River. Decisions have consequences.
Paul Amirault January 20, 2012 at 04:04 AM
I would think that most members of the PHWMBA don't even know this discussion is going on about the fair location or even know of the committee making the decision.
Tim January 20, 2012 at 04:18 AM
This is what I'm thinking as well. That'd be a serious scorched earth policy I'm not sure will really accomplish what you (Dee) want.
Tim January 20, 2012 at 04:20 AM
IIRC, there was some negative feedback, but I think an overall general acceptance that White Marsh is a true sister town for us. I don't know where this Kingsville association comes from though. When I think of Kingsville, I think of "the sticks" so to speak.
Tom Koogle January 20, 2012 at 04:30 AM
Who at PHHS or PHMS is "they?" I can't imagine there would be serious resistance from the school or the rec council as the school year would be ended and summer baseball would be over before July. The fields are essentially unused in July.
Greg Redmer January 20, 2012 at 12:10 PM
It's wrong to single out Klausmeiers. I'm sure they had no input in this decision. They are an honest business that have been around for probably at least 50 years and have taken care of their neighbors and customers with first class service.
Kimberly Ann Bankard January 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM
There are enough complaints on this post that those in charge really should do something about changing the location. It definitely should never be in Middle River. It was so nice having it at the high school and closing the road in front of it. Keep the Perry Hall Fair as something that we all look forward to walking around, seeing familiar faces, and taking our kids to. There are enough things in this country being ruined - please don't add the Perry Hall Fair to the list.
Cory G January 20, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Do you have any proof that the 'litterers' are from Middle River and Essex, or are you merely assuming?
Paul Amirault January 20, 2012 at 04:54 PM
Cory G., us folks from PH/WM have been told about those folks over on the east side of Route 40 all of our lives, of course I believe my parents. Just like they told us about the people south of the Beltway. :-))
Laura January 20, 2012 at 09:53 PM
As I said in a post above, I still plan to attend the "Town Fair" in the new location. All of the complaining has not changed my opinion on that decision. However, even though this comment is not about the a fair, I would like to state again as I have in the Patch before, good luck on your picnic at Honeygo Regional Park. I go there 2 to 3 times a week and notice more and more dog owners not cleaning up after their dogs - leaving piles all along the paved walkway and scattered in the grass. It stinks, looks horrible and is everywhere. I stick to the walkway when I go there and still have to navigate to avoid stepping on all dog mess. I wouldn't take any children to that park and expose them to all the health risks by allowing them to get near the grass. It is absolutely disgusting.
Eric Martin January 20, 2012 at 10:03 PM
I wasn't going to answer this post because the answer is so obvious. But I am compelled to do so. The County is worried that the fair would kill the grass, but they're not worried about all the dog feces killing the grass. I think the fair would be far less dangerous to the grass than the dogmess. The local scout troop cleans up and takes care of the fairgrounds every year in exchange for a troop donation. Surely the rec and parks dept could find some volunteers to pick up after the pets. I work with the juvenile court system. There are numerous kids who are court ordered to do community service. A nice weekend in the summer picking up after the dogs would do some of these kids a world of good. You do the crime, you pick up S--t!
R January 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM
I wonder if they looked at blocking off a section of any large roads (still providing access for homeowners) to host the fair in town.
Jim Jones January 21, 2012 at 01:24 AM
Wow, I don't recall a local decision raising so much local controversy. I must say that I 100% understand why the local residents of Perry Hall would not want to go to Middle River for "their" town fair. It is ridiculous. What does it say about the area of Perry Hall that nowhere could be found to host your own fair. Other areas shut roads down for their fairs and it's not an issue. I can remember going to the Parkville fair as a chiild where they shut Harford Road, a major road, down for the day and it's not an issue. You are telling me that in the entire area of Perry Hall that you couldn't find a parking lot or street you could shut down for a Saturday afternoon??? Does this mean that Perry Hall has over developed it's area to a point that this isn't possible??? Does it mean that the businesses that profit from the community are too selfish to be inconvenienced for an afternoon?? It is sad, very sad. If I recall Crossroads had their own fair last year. Now when people are riding down RT43 that day they will see a fair and have no clue it's for Perry Hall. Then again who in their right mind would think a town fair in one community was actually for another. If the fair is going to remain at crossroads, it needs to lose the "Perry Hall" from the name.
Paul Amirault January 21, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Transparency is just simply missing here through the entire thread. What is wrong with just simply telling everyone exactly what went down at PHHS and Honeygo Village and Honeygo Park? PH reksidents will understand if you give them the truth, but so far little pieces are coming out and no one except the Board knows what went on.
jack amrhein January 22, 2012 at 06:47 PM
Clarification PHIA is not the same as the PHWM Business Association. The Town Fair is produced and presented by the PHWMBC While the PHIA traditionally supports, assists, and participates in the Town Fair, it does not make operational decisions. The PHIA will continue its work and dedication to making Perry Hall the premier place to live.
Carole Miller January 23, 2012 at 08:11 PM
This is ridiculousness! Im certainly not coming to a Perry Hall Fair that's not in Perry Hall.
Carole Miller February 02, 2012 at 02:53 AM
DB I agree . Im just not going ,not that I matter to its sucess .Im just not doing it.
Carole Miller February 02, 2012 at 02:54 AM
Right you are Balto. Co Parent.
Carole Miller February 02, 2012 at 02:58 AM
If we cant have the Fair in Mayberry (Perry Hall ) then lets not go. As with any government .....getting too big too many regulations ,whos running this Obama / OweMally ????
Paul Amirault February 02, 2012 at 03:03 AM
Why even go there?
Carole Miller February 02, 2012 at 07:49 PM
Corey .... Exactly !!! that's what happen, if Owe Mally and Obama are able to blame ,so should we or I in this case . David Marks ,we always want your input so dont ever stay out of our comments......but we aren't going, to the, Not Perry Hall Fair.

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