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UPDATE: 6 Arrested in White Marsh Mall Robbery, Fight

Two weekend incidents led to the arrest of several Baltimore County residents.

UPDATE (March 19, 3:38 p.m.)—A robbery in the White Marsh Mall parking lot on Saturday and on Friday led to several arrests, police said.

Mall management called the incidents "rare and isolated," and emphasized the mall's public safety program.

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At about 10 p.m. on March 17, a 12-year-old boy and a 13-year-old boy, both from Middle River, were robbed and assaulted in the mall parking lot along the 8200 block of Perry Hall Boulevard, according to a police report.

A group of male teens approached the boys, punched one of them, and stole an iPod and cell phone from them, the police report showed.

Based on witness accounts and video surveillance footage, police arrested and charged a male 14-year-old Parkville resident at the 7-Eleven, adjacent to the mall, shortly after the robbery. Police later arrested and charged a male 16-year-old and a male 14-year-old near their Parkville homes, according to the police report.

Officers also arrested Windsor Thaddeus Jones, 18, of the 8700 block of Melissa Lilian Court in Perry Hall and charged him with robbery, second-degree assault and theft less than $1,000, court records showed. Similar charges were brought against each of the juveniles involved in the incident, police said.

Officers responded to the mall the previous night, as well.

Shortly after 9:15 p.m. on March 16, several police officers and a helicopter unit responded to a of the mall, .

A male 15-year-old Middle River resident began cursing at a police officer after he was asked to leave the mall. The boy pushed and struck the officer and was arrested, according to of the .

A "hostile crowd" of between 50 and 100 people gathered around the officer, Balog said. 

David Reed, 33, of the unit block of Lawrence Road in Dundalk was arrested after intervening in the melee. He was charged with resisting and interfering with an arrest and disorderly conduct, court records showed.

The 15-year-old suspect was charged with assault, disorderly conduct and was released to his mother, police said.

Regarding the recent mall incidents, Balog said officers are "working with security to ensure adequate presence inside and outside the mall."

Lisa Bisenius, White Marsh Mall general manager, released the following statement to Patch on Monday afternoon:

The safety and well-being of our shoppers are our top priorities every day, not just when incidents occur. We have a customized public safety program made up of various measures that include a trained public safety team in addition to several off-duty policemen. We do not discuss the other measures because doing so would compromise our efforts. We also have a code of conduct that we expect everyone to abide by when they come to White Marsh Mall. Our code of conduct ensures every shopper has an enjoyable shopping experience.    

Because of our commitment to the safety and well-being of our shoppers, the incidents that occurred over the weekend were rare and isolated ones that were quickly handled by our security team and police officers.

Are you comfortable shopping at White Marsh Mall on nights and weekends? Tell us why or why not in the comments.

RossvilleLocal April 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM
As for places to hang...this isn't rocket science, Find a church with an active youth program, Boy/Girl Scouts, bowling league, gymastics, local rec sports. Oh sorry this would require parents actually spending time with their kids. Better idea, drop the little dears off at the mall for well you know...Lord of the Flies.
Tim April 11, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Yep. I was raised with occasional paddling as punishment. Despite what these psychologists and child development people seem to think, I turned out perfectly fine and with no inclination to hit anyone. Our society is simply softer and less responsible then ever before, and it shows in the development (cumulative speaking) of our children. It sucks, but you can't fix other people's kids. Only make sure your own don't continue the trend. If enough local parents don't suck at aspects of parenting, maybe in 10-15 years this trend will slow down to pre-today levels.
Paul May 19, 2012 at 02:19 PM
The bus stop over on the side of Sears near the automotive center is INSANE..... I thought I was in the inner city...... Keep voting for the Dem's you liberals..... it will never get better. Only worse! I'd rather see the rich get richer than the piece's of ^&$# who are ruining society get their handouts any day. Either way the middle class gets screwed. So do thr right thing. Clean up this state, Perry Hall was so awesome 20 years ago when I moved here. Now I can barely stomach what it's become.
little sister May 20, 2012 at 02:36 AM
I think the parents should be arrested !!! If they can't raise their children to be law biding and respectful, then let them loose on the public. They raise criminals, they are criminals !!! Don't stop, go right to jail. Maybe these lousy parents would get a clue and try to be actual parents who teach responsibility . It really makes me ill. !!!
little sister May 20, 2012 at 02:41 AM
I feel the same way !!!! I say the parents should be arrested !!!! Maybe they will take a little more interest in their children when it affects them !!!
little sister May 20, 2012 at 02:43 AM
@ Ashley-- That's very sweet you want to defend your old school but... 10 years is a long time. Things have changed, for the worse. Don't get defensive, just check your facts !!! :)
Daniel Tai June 14, 2012 at 06:29 AM
i am juz 13. i thing this is just too much!!!!!!!!!!! i would rather eat my own hand then just assault someone
Brenna Washington January 04, 2013 at 01:00 AM
Almost everyone who has commented on this was NOT born in the 90's. I am 16 years old and mixed, some of these comments sound racist. I am getting offended by the ignorant things people are saying! Not all minoritys are violent and have a tase for crime. White Marsh useld to be my hang out spot every Saturday night before they made up these pointless rules. How about they get some REAL cops instead of these damn rent-a-cops! AND to the people that are scared, get out of your bubble that yu obviously live in! YOUR in Baltimore and its 2013. Your generation is over, get out of the past. Don't show these clowns fear. I could go on and on, but I rest my case for now.
Tim January 04, 2013 at 02:02 AM
I actually agree with you Brenna. Most of the Patch posters are old curmudgeons, refusing to accept the present realities. Especially about those hiding in their homes in fear. Unfortunately, racism is alive and well - but it honestly goes in all directions, not just 'one'. It gets propagated by both young and old, black, white, hispanic, mixed, etc. Why? Because it's easy, it's lazy. Best thing you can do is don't contribute to it. Stand above it, even when you see others sink to those depths.
Tim January 04, 2013 at 02:05 AM
Oh please Buzz. You're trolling a teenager? Come on, you're one of the old curmudgeons I'm referring to. 217 victims of homicide in the CITY. Last I checked, none of us live in the city. The PH/WM area continues to be safer today then it was 3-4 years ago. look up the numbers - I just did the other day. Outside of drug related crimes, those are up a bit. Just stop it. Her message is good, if not a bit blunt. If you're willing to listen to it.
Parkvillehoney January 04, 2013 at 02:27 AM
Brenna, White Marsh Mall and the Avenue WAS my hang out spot on the weekend. After going to dinner, I would like to walk around and shop. The last 4 years have been a disaster. Young groups, using the "F" word loud and clear. Large groups walking by taking up the entire sidewalk, where I had to move because they wouldn't. Playing loud profanity laced rap music on the Avenue. Sorry, Brenna, I welcome young people that know how to act in public. I don't want to subject myself and my family to this behavior. I stay away from both shopping areas on the weekend.
Buzz Beeler January 04, 2013 at 02:41 AM
Tim you may be right. I deleted it. It is not my fist mistake and won't be my last. I did set the record straight on one subject and after the finger pointing at the police how many comments were made. Now that contains some crumdugeoning. My apologies to the young lady. They do have county police at the mall. http://dundalk.patch.com/blog_posts/north-point-officers-exonerated-in-shooting-death-of-joshua-lopez
Eric Martin January 04, 2013 at 02:46 AM
Brenna, The fact that we live near Baltimore in 2013 does not justify animalistic behavior at the mall or anywhere else. There are no racists behind every rock either. The comments made here only reflect the anecdotal experiences of the posters. No one here is singling out any particular race or ethnic group. We expect all persons to behave properly in public places. Now you may believe that posters here who are mentioning the city and hip-hop music are racially stereotyping. But people are just calling it as they see it from their own experiences. If you have some statistical data that would refute these anecdotes then I would love to see it.
Parkvillehoney January 04, 2013 at 03:01 AM
Brenna, my negative experiences have been caused by young white and black people. It is a lack for responsibility for their negative behavior that concerns me. Someone can cuss, play profanity laced music all they want within their own home. Don't bring it out in public, where it disturbs other people. People should have a little self respect for themselves, if they are out in public.
Steve January 04, 2013 at 03:08 AM
. "Now that contains some crumdugeoning." BOBB
FIFA January 04, 2013 at 03:15 AM
Welcome to the Patch Brenna with your first post ever. You have caught a few veterans with your line Congratulations, may your fishing be successful in the future. Sadly, veterans have fallen for your fervor.
Steve January 04, 2013 at 03:24 AM
" It is not my fist mistake and won't be my last." BOBB
Buzz Beeler January 04, 2013 at 03:49 AM
Here is one of the quotes at the time of the incident of Mr. Lopez: ___________________________________________________ sean 5:51 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Buzz Beeler you are nothing more then a lethargic devil you know nothing about josh you know nothing about the situation it what actually happened all you know is what this false propoganda ...[sic] _______________________________________________________ What am I now. I hear no outrage from those who vilified the police and yet no comments. What does that say? Hang first before the evidence is in? And Steve you want justice. Your version of justice is Steve's world. Frank I think the unemployment figures are higher than you thought. They were announced tonight. Reality sometimes gets in the way fantasy.
djp952 January 04, 2013 at 06:49 AM
What are you now? Really? You're the same as you've always been ... an opinionated blowhard with questionable grammar skills resting on some supposed laurels of the past that you feel somehow make you more important, nay, more "right" than anyone else could ever possibly be. I share many of these flaws myself :) My question to you, Mr. Beeler, is: are you finally man enough to step up and actually effect change yet or are you still the whimpering child that can do nothing more than regurgitate textual evidence that you've been "wronged" when encountered with dissent (as you have once again portrayed here)? Are you now, or will you ever be, mature enough to not instinctively lash out at brazen character assassinations and take the time to ponder and discover what the real intents behind them are? Hint: if people didn't care they would just *ignore* you (why the hell can't you see this?). Prove to me that you're indeed better than me ... actually do something about it. If you can't, well, that makes you no better than anyone else out here, so stop pretending to be so damned affronted all the time. You give new meaning to "put up or shut up" ... so put up for goodness sakes!!!!
Buzz Beeler January 04, 2013 at 02:04 PM
Coming from a dijp your word lacks a certain meaningfulness. I put up every time I write a blog. I write exposing corruption and wrong doing pandering politicians. I follow that up with facts, from main stream news sites or PIA's to get the truth. What is interesting is that those who hide in the shadows and are gutless and afraid have the nerve to tell me to shut up and yet they have nothing to offer but their unfettered wisdom. You want respect but fail to do the nothing to earn it but run your mouth and say" LOL" like I can hear you. How can I prove anything to nothing. The truth is not character assassination and speaking of that you follow your buddies Steve and Frank. They accuse me of crimes, libel me and yet you accuse me of character assassination. I defend myself against tings like you and I am not responsible that you have nothing to offer otherwise you would state same and be proud of what you do. I asked jag what kind of work he did because he accused me of "sucking" off the public after working as a police officer for 39 years and just like you, Steve and Frank I will get no answer. You don't make sense. On the one hand you accuse me of not putting up and when I do you tell me to shut up. When you grow up and become whatever a djp is that get back to me otherwise I know I'm at least more of person with character than you because I'm real.
Steve January 04, 2013 at 03:58 PM
"I asked jag what kind of work he did because he accused me of "sucking" off the public after working as a police officer for 39 years and just like you, Steve and Frank I will get no answer. " LOL You never worked a day in your life!
djp952 January 04, 2013 at 04:03 PM
Yup. No matter how hard anyone tries, he just reacts and assumes everyone is just poking him for the fun of it. That's true enough at times, much like cats batting around mice, it can be enjoyable. Shame he's never once actually stopped to read the few things I've written to him from the viewpoint of an outsider looking in (which I am) that just wants to be able to read these articles and comments without having to sift through the incessant spam that he continues to encourage. He is apparently incapable of stating his opinion without the need to lash out upon those that dissent. I especially enjoy his convoluted diatribes on meaningless things like people's logon names. Buzz needs a more constructive outlet than the Internet provides him. Sad, really, somebody that so desperately wants to do good for the community and has lots of ideas and energy (and apparently a great deal of free time) is so limited by his interpersonal skills. Oh well.
Buzz Beeler January 04, 2013 at 04:24 PM
And what do you do for a living lord Steve the supposed one that you are. You can't even answer a simple question. I see now jag has joined your group. Another no name who claims to have the answers when he fails to comprehend what he reads. The only reason as I see it is your group is afraid to step up and that speaks volumes of your character. It also tells me you have not accomplised much in life otherwise you would not be afraid to talk about it since you put your two cents into everything else. I still wonder why your are not at work?
Steve January 04, 2013 at 05:53 PM
I am at work. "Lord Steve" I kinda like it! DJP has you nailed to a tee Beeker.
Buzz Beeler January 04, 2013 at 06:32 PM
Steve you are at work and you are on the computer commenting. Are you stealing form your boss or the company for not doing your job? Does that include you Frank and what about the links I posted on the unemployment that remained the same? That speaks volumes as to your honesty and creditability, but I expect that from you two. And you wonder why this country is dying. Cat got your tongue or your boss standing over your shoulder. I'm sure your job is a "lumpenproletariat" one. Who or what is a DJP? Just another meaningless nothing. I'll change my life right away based on a nothing's remarks. Gutless!
Steve January 04, 2013 at 06:44 PM
No Beeker, My comments about your stupid crap are "Pending Approval".
Buzz Beeler January 04, 2013 at 06:59 PM
Do you consider your own words that your were working as per your response. You made the statement, I didn't. You said you were working and as far as I know you are not allowed to use company computers for personal reasons.
djp952 January 04, 2013 at 10:01 PM
You need to work on your insults a bit more. Not feeling it yet, but don't give up, I'm sure with enough practice you could come up with something truly witty and biting. Just do me a favor and spell check it first :)
kimberly deavers January 12, 2013 at 01:28 PM
I am commenting about everyone talking about kids going to the mall. Kids have been hanging at malls since the 50's. My boys got put out of White Marsh Mall a year ago. The cop that was on duty had put his hands on my son and grabbed him up by his jacket and told him that if he said anything to him again he would pepper spray him and arrest him. I came to the mall every Friday when they were there and they left with me. That one day he was there early and he was put out before I got there. My boys are not trashy kids. I am tired of people that have money up there asses talking about kids who are middle class as trashy kids. When I confronted the cop that put my son out and was in the process of making my other son leave because he is the brother of the other one,he said that my boys are trouble makers and disrespectful. I told him my son is in ROTC, and he works at McDonalds. When I pick him up from school every teacher in that school tell me that he is very respectful and his boss at McDonalds tells me the same, and that he is a good worker. The cops and security guards there like to harass and single out certain groups of kids. If they are wearing black or rock shirts and dressed goth they are trouble. The cops and guards there need to give respcect to earn it. I have been working in the school system for 8 years and kids are very respectful to me because I care. I don't judge anyone for how they dress or where they come from and I am always here for them
Buzz Beeler January 12, 2013 at 03:18 PM
Sounds to me like you're the problem with the trash talk with the one word you used. If you felt you had an issue than file a complaint. It's always the police at fault not the kids. The cops have a saying that goes something like - what, not my child; my child would never do that! Go up to the mall on a Friday night and just sit there and watch. The truth often hurts. You will get an eye full.

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