Perry Hall Subway Robbed Saturday

paula April 1, 2012 at 03:46 pm

This surely has something to do with all the Section 8 people in the apartments in the area off Chapel Road, Joppa and Silver Spring and the apartment complex next to Mars on Belair Road. The Baltimore City problems have moved to Perry Hall/White Marsh. White Marsh mall is becoming a ghetto.

Tom Bolander April 1, 2012 at 03:50 pm

@ Paula, No Comment (grin)...

Parkvillehoney April 1, 2012 at 05:14 pm

The idea of "move to opportunity" was to give lower income families an opportunity to live among responsible, middle class neighborhoods. They could live anywhere, as long as they had a subsidized housing voucher. Sad you can move a lot of these families into middle class, responsible neighborhoods, but the behavior of these families haven't changed!! I know first hand about loud, disrespectful, and foul mouth behavior of a Section 8 family in my neighborhhod. I feel the county should demand responsible behavior of the residents living under a Section 8 voucher. I also feel if a member of their family is commiting crimes, you lose your right to this subsidized house.

Red Dolphin April 1, 2012 at 05:20 pm

we should all agree its both locals and out-siders (that aint helping things any)

Other Tim April 1, 2012 at 05:38 pm

I believe the "Subway" comment posted earlier was a joke.
There is probably at least one drug addict in any neighborhood. When these people need money for a fix, I don't think they plan where and when to committ their next crime.

CarneyGirl April 1, 2012 at 05:51 pm

I 100% agree with you Parkvillehoney.

Other Tim April 1, 2012 at 06:03 pm

Why don't we make all roads leading in to Perry Hall toll roads? Charge per person to discourage bus traffic.
With the money, we could hire our own police force to keep an eye on all the undesirables. Maybe form some sort of commission to approve anybody wishing to move into Perry Hall.

Tom Bolander April 1, 2012 at 06:15 pm

@ O Tim, We need the laws changed to read, "YOUR HOME is YOUR CASLE" ... Criminals often carry guns and Good People should have the Right to Carry too., if they chose...

Parkvillehoney April 1, 2012 at 06:32 pm

Our government has to realize "there are no free lunches." The majority of people don't appreciate and respect the things that are given for free. Government programs should demand some form of "repayment." Habitat for Humanity requires 300 hours of "sweat equity" labor from the buyer of their houses. These homeowners have very little default rates. I would like see the government work with Habitat for Humanity and help these lower income families become homeowners instead of subsidized renters. The government should also require a job and help them become self sufficient. That also means controlling and correcting your children!!

Paul Amirault April 1, 2012 at 07:43 pm

We give our own oil companies (and many other industries) billions and billions of dollars in tax subsidies every year. We provide their oil tankers and drilling rigs protection. And they don't even have to sell their oil to us! Gratitude, yea right. They hide their profits overseas to avoid paying for the very benefits the rest of us provide. Drill, baby, drill!

John April 1, 2012 at 08:27 pm

Tom, That Subway has been there for over 20 years.

little sister April 1, 2012 at 10:39 pm

I'd say it's more the lack of parenting !!! People who shouldn't be parents are.!

Tom Bolander April 1, 2012 at 11:28 pm

@ John, It was a Dry type joke taking a stab at the proposed lightrail coming to White Marsh....

Tom Bolander April 1, 2012 at 11:30 pm

@ Paul, Amen.....

Yvonne Wynn April 2, 2012 at 02:21 pm

I agree with you Parkvillehoney....No one is over seeing this program and its out of control, we see it in our complex not accountable to cut grass, use trash cans control there kids etc. Most people who purchased all these homes in WhiteMarsh and Perry durning hight can't sell them so they have turn ithem into Section 8 and don't seem to care because they are getting the CHECK every month.

Emily Kimball (Editor) April 2, 2012 at 06:21 pm

Regarding the ATM robbery:
UPDATE (April 2, 12:51 p.m.)—An ATM robbery at gunpoint in Perry Hall on Friday night remains under investigation. A man arrested shortly after the incident has been released while detectives review evidence, police said. Find the full update in the article, Investigation Ongoing, Suspect Released in Perry Hall ATM Robbery - http://patch.com/A-sg8K

Lee Morton April 2, 2012 at 08:17 pm

What does this have to do with Oil companies?

Paul Amirault April 2, 2012 at 11:18 pm

Very simple Lee, what does it have to do with "free lunch" as written by Parkvillehoney?
She/he mentioned "free lunch", I showed you the elephant in the room.

Lee Morton April 2, 2012 at 11:43 pm

The discussion just became stretched from a robbery in Perry Hall, to section 8 creeping up Belair Rd to Drill, Baby, Drill. Parkvillehoney is providing optimistic and helpful suggestions concerning the Section 8 program.
What does Oil Companies have to do with crime in Perry Hall? I'm sure Section 8 has a percentage of the problem. If folks focused their energy and attention on proposing solutions instead of turning this into a partisan stretch of matters unrelated.

Gary Staab April 3, 2012 at 03:10 am

We need to somehow change the acceptance of these section 8 housing credits. How??

Parkvillehoney April 3, 2012 at 04:28 am

There should be a formal contract that details what is expected of families receiving Section 8 vouchers. I also feel if their neighbors have to call the police 3 or more times, they should be evicted. I have spent too much money on my home to have a family move in, that doesn't know how to act civil. Having parties and people screaming and arguing until 6AM isn't normal. This is my 1st experience with a Section 8 family. Due to the economy, this irresponsible landlord will rent to anyone, just to get a higher monthly rent. My hope is this family will hate living in a responsible neighborhood and MOVE. If not, the neighborhood will be contacting Baltimore County about the landlord's rental license; and, calling the police when this subsidized housing family disturbs the peace.

Paul Amirault April 3, 2012 at 11:56 am

Lee, my point is start making your major focus large problems. It is has nothing to with partisan bickering. That's what is being sold to you. Anytime the discussion is about the wealthy and large corporations it is just partisan talk, that's nonsense.

Emily Kimball (Editor) April 3, 2012 at 02:59 pm

UPDATE (April 3, 10:32 a.m.)—Updated information and a suspect description is available in the article, Investigation Ongoing in Perry Hall Subway Robbery - http://patch.com/A-shZ4

Joanne April 3, 2012 at 09:47 pm

@ paula: I agree, that is exactly the problem.

Other Tim April 3, 2012 at 11:42 pm

Suspect is described as a white male. Imagine that. So much for all the not so subtle hints that it was a black person.

Paul Amirault April 4, 2012 at 12:25 am

Surprised? No. White Sec 8 I guess.

Kenny Pahr April 4, 2012 at 04:54 am

Subsidized housing, free medical care, free food, free taxis, free child care, free prescriptions, etc. Why would this population ever decide to go to work? We even pay them more to keep having children, many from different fathers. Meanwhile, the lower and middle class working Americans are getting SCREWED! No more section 8. Welfare should only go to those who are unable to work because of disability. I'm sick of this socialist country.

Kenny Pahr April 4, 2012 at 05:09 am

Paul, why don't you enlighten all of us to these oil subsidies (because it's so related to this topic)? Show us exactly what these subsidies are for and how much they amount to. From what I have found, subsidies in this case is just another word for tax breaks, not money which is paid out. Most of the "subsidies" are due to tax breaks that any manufacturer or industry would receive.

Paul Amirault April 4, 2012 at 10:19 am

Kenny, you asked for enlightenment, let their be light. I surely didn't introduce Sec 8 to this thread. Reducing your taxes is the exact same thing as giving you money. That said, here are the tax subsidies (tax breaks) given to oil companies. Other than the foreign tax credit they are related to oil industries only.
(1) the foreign tax credit; (2) the tax deduction for income attributable to oil, natural gas, or primary products thereof; (3) the tax deduction for intangible drilling and development costs; (4) the percentage depletion allowance for oil and gas wells; and (5) the tax deduction for qualified tertiary injectant expenses. The value of the above is presently estimated to be $4 Billion a year. Saying that a tax break is not paying out money to the oil companies is disingenuous. If I reduce your taxes $100, you have $100 more in your pocket, that's a payment in my world, maybe not yours Kenny. Far more sinister is the fact they don't need the money and if they drill more, they can sell the oil anywhere they like. What's fascinating about the oil company subsidies is they are extraordinarily difficult for the average taxpayer to understand. It is much easier to understand the government giving some low life bum rent money to move into my neighborhood. My overall point is simple, everyone and I mean everyone, has their hands in the government's pockets (thus our pockets). Just some wear suits when they reach in and some don't. Either way, we get fleeced.

tony April 4, 2012 at 12:32 pm

The apartment complex at joppa and silver spring is NOT section 8 and won't be until the goverment makes us !!!!!