Speed Camera Coming to Seven Courts Drive

Police announced an additional five speed cameras in Baltimore County school zones late Friday afternoon.

A speed camera is coming to 's school zone, one of five new cameras announced by police officials late Friday afternoon.

Installation will begin "in the next few days," along , between Joppa Road and Proctor Lane, according to a news release. Cameras will also be installed throughout the county, near Winands Elementary, Loch Raven Academy, Bais Yaakov and St. Ursula's.

The Seven Courts camera is slated to be Perry Hall's second speed camera. The first was on May 1.

Under previous legislation, the total number of speed cameras in county school zones was restricted to 15. But on Jan. 1, 2012, under a new contract and a law approved by the County Council in February, the county was allowed to in school zones. The latest five additional cameras will bring the county's total to 22, according to the release.

Thirty days after a speed cameras is activated, drivers in the designated school zone who exceed the speed limit by at least 12 mph will receive a warning. After 30 days, the cameras will begin issuing $40 citations.

Based on state law, speed cameras operate year-round, between 6 a.m. and 8 p.m. Mondays through Fridays.

Speeding and reckless driving is widely regarded as a along Seven Courts Drive. Ire over traffic conditions escalated after a while trying to cross the road in January.

Police temporarily stationed a in March. of the Parkville police precinct said its placement is in direct response to traffic concerns from local residents, shared in the comments of and during following the hit-and-run.

Do you think the speed camera will have a traffic calming affect on Seven Courts Drive? Tell us in the comments.

gwynn June 03, 2012 at 03:21 AM
It just makes me want to move. People will be clamoring to buy houses in our area with all these perks.
Blue Duck June 03, 2012 at 01:54 PM
At first I was not happy with the idea of these cameras being installed everywhere. I also thought it should require a cop to be sitting there in order to catch you speeding. I'm a bit heavy footed at times and at least wanted the chance to see the cop and hit my brakes as I am a very observant driver! Then I thought about where they install these cameras- around schools and usually in a residential area. Those are places I really watch my speed to make sure I stay within a few mph of the speed limit. Now I am totally for the cameras! 12 mph is more than enough cushion and if you're going that fast you deserve a $40 ticket if not worse. Frankly I think a cop should sit there occasionally and give out bigger tickets with points. As Tim said above these cameras are deterrents for those people who choose to speed in an area around kids which is very dangerous. I think they need much stiffer fines for those who speed excessively or are reckless/negligent drivers. Anyone who says they are against the cameras are basically saying they see no problem with someone going 43 mph down 7 Courts Drive? Really?
Jeanne June 03, 2012 at 03:58 PM
I can't comment on what caused the woman's death on Seven Courts, I wasn't there. I live off of Seven Courts and people SPEED, DRIVE RECKLESS, CARELESS, RUDE, etc.... If you don't see the "rapid speeders" maybe you are one of them.
Jeanne June 03, 2012 at 04:10 PM
GWYNN please tell me the perks of this area. I have lived here over 10 years and other then the elementary school being near by the "perks" are going downhill. I have nothing personal against anybody, just don't understand what they mean. I spent six years trying to get crossing guards put on Seven Courts when school is starting and ending to make it safer for everyone to get in and out of the road the school is on but nobody wants to do anything. The talked to some of the bus drivers and they were always, and still are, concerned about making any left turns in the area because of the drivers. I watch people speed past buses that have the lights flashing & the stop sign out while letting students off the bus.When I took tag numbers and description of car to the police they said they couldn't do anything. Even when I was walking and saw this and was able to get a picture of the car passing the bus while students got out & the tag number the police still refused to do anything. Cameras are not going to stop this, the police sitting there doesn't stop it, what will???????
gwynn June 03, 2012 at 04:32 PM
Jeanne - I love the crossing guards - that should be a given in a school area, especially elementary school. My 'perks' comment was sarcasm. If I had to choose between a house with a speed camera, daily speed traps, bumps, etc. and another house, I would choose the other. It just feels like they criminalize ordinary law abiding citizens who make a mistake once in a while. I love Perry Hall, but I would move to another section. Seven Courts is very wide and long. I would not be opposed to making the road narrower and adding more stop signs. The circle they installed turned out not to be so bad, but people don't know how to drive that either and stop unnecessarily. Maybe we need better drivers ed and reminders of the school bus laws sent with the registration renewals.
Ed June 03, 2012 at 05:46 PM
All of you SHEEP who think cameras are a good idea raise my blood pressure. One day the government will put cameras in your homes to make sure you aren't spanking your children or drinking sugary sodas or whatever. Keep feeding Big Brother.
Other Tim June 03, 2012 at 08:07 PM
I am not a sheep blindly following your "Big Brother". I think speed camers are an innovative way to stop people (including you, probably) from driving any way they please and endangering the lives of others. I get a sick feeling in my stomach every time I drive the speed limit and get tailgated, cursed at and given the finger. I just wish the speed camera violators would get points along with the fine to get them off the road.
Tim June 04, 2012 at 01:38 PM
They do put police officers on Seven Courts with some regularity. They've actually gotten a lot better at hiding. Except when they put an officer with a handheld gun standing out there. Sticks out like a sore thumb.
Tim June 04, 2012 at 01:39 PM
Crossing guards don't help the fact hundreds of people are walking up and down the sidewalks of Seven Courts road every single day.
Tim June 04, 2012 at 01:40 PM
Ed: The only thing feeding your blood pressure is your ignorance at this point. Take some more meds. FIFA: I agree with that idea, actually. Again, if I got busted - and yeah, I'd have been busted REPEATEDLY in my 20's - it'd teach me. Now, I wouldn't suggest a fine or anything for it. Just make it so the car won't start.
Jeanne June 04, 2012 at 01:56 PM
Good morning gwynn, thanks for explaining. I see what you mean I would choose a house in another area too. More because I would assume there wasn't traffic problems so a safer road. I was pulled over for speeding even through I wasn't when I was calling non stop about the people that were parking illegal during the flea markets. I couldn't believe it, thankfully the judge gave me pbj so no points or fine. If they added the bike lanes and put up the cement divider so bikers would be safe it would help narrow the road but I don't think it would help with the speeding or reckless driving. Why not have to take the exam every 5-10 years when you renew your license. We learned about some new laws when our son was taking his exam and going through drivers ed.
Jeanne June 04, 2012 at 02:00 PM
FIFA a very good idea but too easy to get around it. I know of someone who had to have one installed in his car and he just got someone else to breathe into it. I will never know why they didn't take his license.
Tim June 04, 2012 at 02:01 PM
I thought of this too, but what kind of idiot allows his sober breath to enable a drunk to drive?
Jeanne June 04, 2012 at 02:04 PM
I agree with you 100% Tim. I guess he paid people but they are still idiots.
Immanuel Baptist Church June 04, 2012 at 02:10 PM
I say do whatever you have to do if it saves lives. If you're not breaking the law what do you have to worry about? As far as the Mon-Fri til 8 pm for the cameras - that isn't going to help the Saturday night Indy 500 that goes on. With summer coming it's going to get worse. I live close enough to the road to hear them all night long.
MUHAIR MUHAMMAD FAQSI June 04, 2012 at 02:49 PM
"Crossing guards don't help the fact hundreds of people are walking up and down the sidewalks of Seven Courts road every single day." I THINK YOUR WRONG HERE. With that said, I feel like adding crosswalks gives some deadbeats on 7cts. a job. Funny cuz i drive on 7 everyday of my life, and instead of seeing people use xwalks they are instead jiving/skate boarding/walking/texting by like no car can F with them. It's not so much a speed problem because more cops could just issue tickets, it's a community problem. A little overpass bridge like the honeygo one might be succesfull if built and placed correctly. Instead of all you old farts complaining about "young thugs" and speeding. plus this camera lets you go even faster then some speeders did. So all the dinosaurs in here, please note that if cops cared they would be issuing tickets everynight. Franklin Sq has cops there every day it seems why can't they just issue a damn officer on pontrol/watch on 7. You'd be surpised what 7 courts has turned out to be.
MUHAIR MUHAMMAD FAQSI June 04, 2012 at 03:06 PM
In addition. I counted 7 people jay walking on my trip to the mall and back. WHAT THE HECK A SPEED CAMERA GOING TO DO If people are WALKING AIMLESS IN THE MIDDLE OF 7 CT. 1 MATURE FEMALE/2 GROUPS OF WHITE KIDS /1 GROUP OF BLACK KIDS. AS MUCH AS OLD GEEZERS HATE IT, THE REASON WHY THE LADY DIED WAS BECAUSE OF IDIOTIC DRIVING/BAD MANUEVERING. AND THAT BY BOTH PARTIES. It's sad that you guys come here and blame the thugs of perry hall, like you some of you 30+ don't speed. Even cops text/talk drive same time. Why don't we rant about it here. Back to the crosswalk guards, gunpowder 7 oaks and 1 other nearby school all have walks and guards even ph middle. they could stay in uniform after the kiddies get home and go work on 7 courts from like 4 to 7? Is there somekind of problem with that? It's another jobb to add and other check for someone to collect. O and by the way, don't give me no manpower answer or some "cops switch shift/rotate/cover different areas" If they can add a damn camera, we can add more units to the task force. UHHH HOW DO YOU TURN THAT ON???? The On switch... I work for state highway in dc, i'd think i'd know a thing about roads..lanes structure.
Tim June 04, 2012 at 03:16 PM
The only realistic scenario I could see is some docile girlfriend/wife/domestic partner doing it for their other half. You know they are out there.
Hank June 04, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Tim, you are the one who is ignorant. I'm a transportation planner and can tell you that decreasing Seven Courts from 4 lanes to 2 would do FAR more for safety than these cameras you love so much. I don't speed either. Zero violations of any kind.
Tim June 04, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Hank: Show me where I claimed that speed cameras would work better then reducing Seven Courts from 4 lanes to 2.
John Doe June 05, 2012 at 02:05 PM
Pave the road with a mixture of 25% concrete, 25% quicksand, 25% molasses, and 25% carpet tacks - this would be the only way to solve the speeding problem. There is no answer when you see your neighbors, who have young children of their own, speeding on the street and running the stop sign near THEIR house. They know young kids are in the area - they don't care.
Jeanne June 07, 2012 at 02:49 AM
Feel better MUHAIR for ranting and raving at everyone??????? An overpass bridge built? There is so many problems with that. Were to put it since Seven Courts is not a short road, how to pay for it, how to get the associations to aprove giving up the property, and so many more. There is a park on Honeygo, the overpass bridge connects the two sides to make it more convient & safer to use both sides of the park. Some of the people here tried to make it an age issue but were corrected very quickly by many people that the speeding/reckless driving is not an age issue but involves everyone no matter their age. Hospitals have their own security, no matter how good the security people are they are not Baltimore County Police.The only exceptions are if police are taking on security shifts on their own time and that would only be for who hired them for that
Jeanne June 07, 2012 at 02:51 AM
shift. There are, at the most, three crosswalks along Seven Courts and if you are not anywhere near any of them I don't see the problem with crossing the street without one there. It doesn't matter if a person is in a crosswalk or not drivers should still be careful and watch out for them. I walk my dog around the elementary school and senior center, to do so I have to cross Seven Courts. There are no crosswalks there so I need to wait until it is safe to cross and I do but we have almost been hit because of speeders that it would have been impossible to see. TWO WOMAN DIED ON SEVEN COURTS A FEW YEARS APART AND NEITHER OF THEM WERE AT FAULT. THE DRIVER THAT HIT THE FIRST WOMAN WAS NOT AT FAULT DUE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THE PERSON THAT STOPPED THEIR CAR TO LET THE WOMAN CROSS THIS YEAR WAS TRYING TO HELP HER AND IT WAS NOT HER FAULT. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. Seven Oaks Elementary does NOT have crossing guards. The people you see standing out there are teachers while the buses come and go. Teachers take turn as to who is going to be inside and who has bus duty. AGAIN get your facts straight. A crossing guards job is to make sure students/teachers/parents get across the street safely, they are not trained for traffic duty and do not have the authority. I'm sure many of them could do a good job at controling traffic. There is a shift change, just like any other job, and the cops on the street during that time are the ones responding to emergency calls..
Jeanne June 07, 2012 at 02:53 AM
MUHAIR my husband and I went to DC September 10th and the "roads and lane structure" suck. Even the FBI men by the road, that were kind enough to help us, commented on how awful the roads are.
DougW July 08, 2012 at 10:57 AM
The camera was installed last weekend, and it is gone now, just a concrete pad. What happened to it? Anyone know?
Mike Fisher July 10, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Speed cameras are useless and nothing more than a police fund raising tour to rape taxpayers, the ones that pay their damn salaries, over chicken S tickets. The woman who was killed on Seven Courts Drive was hit by a DRUNK DRIVER, not a sober one. The problem is speed limits are too low. There is no way that the speed limit on SCD should be 30mph, it should be 40mph, 35mph AT LEAST for as wide as it is after the circle. You don't penalize an entire town because of one person, that is ridiculous and insanity at it's finest. The other insane part is that you can't BUY a car these days that won't go at least 100mph, yet I've never seen a speed limit above 80mph anywhere and only for short distances on remote stretches of highways. Why make cars go that fast, why continue to increase their handling ability, their performance at high speeds and their braking power if we're just going to tell people to go 30mph everywhere. It's a complete scam and fund raising tour, that's all it is.
Mike Fisher July 10, 2012 at 10:15 PM
Speed limits are too low, that's the problem. People driving under the speed limit because they are too old to drive or just suck at driving, that's the problem. People who force curbing to merge them into traffic cutting off other drivers is the problem. Flat out, people who don't know how to drive is the problem, not the speed limits. Cars today, even cars 10-15 years ago can EASILY handle speeds of 40mph and be able to brake and handle more than effectively enough to avoid accidents, it's just 80% of people don't know how to drive a car properly. THAT's the problem. You want to fix the problem? Raise the speed limits, for one. A speed trap in front of Seven Oaks is ridiculous because the school grounds is behind another building, well away from the road and also because they just don't do a damn thing to stop people from speeding. You want to fix the problem? Stop making cars that can go 100mph, handle tight turns at 35mph or more with ease and brake faster. What's the point in improving the performance ability of cars if you're just going to ticket everyone for using it. I will say a 12 MPH buffer for tickets/warnings is fair because that still means you can go 40mph. No WAY should anyone get a ticket at 2am for driving 50mph down this street when there's no headlights to be seen and everyone is in bed.
Mike Fisher July 10, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Cars today can easily handle higher speeds. It makes no sense to continue to improve car performance if speed limits stay the same. NO sense at all. Make cars with a top speed of 60mph, then you'll fix the problem. Until then, stop complaining about people speeding. People will use the performance they have. More accidents are caused by SLOW drivers than by fast ones. Weaving in and out of tight traffic without turn signals? Reckless and unacceptable. Driving 10-15mph over the speed limit in a straight line with few cars around? Not a danger to anyone. If someone runs out into the road, guess who's fault that is? THEIRS for being an idiot and running out into the road without looking. I'm so sick of all this speed camera BS. I have never been ticketed by one. I consider myself a moderately aggressive driver because I will not sit behind slow drivers, but I will not do anything to risk an accident either. It is PAINFUL to drive at 25mph or even 30mph in a straight line on a well paved road. I have lived in this place for most of my life and never once seen a child run out into the street or anything even remotely close to that. What happened to that old lady was a tragedy, a tragedy that ONE person caused and ONE person should be punished for it, not the whole community. BS, all of it and it won't stop speeders either. It will do two things: one, clog up the court system and two, cause massive backlash.
Mike Fisher July 10, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Speed limits need to change. They are too low and way behind the technology and capabilities of today's cars. It's ridiculous.


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